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To: WillRain
Heinlein Fans: Assistance requested.

Skim it. It's easy to spot.
2 posted on 11/13/2004 12:28:31 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Use "The Borg" from Star Trec, better idea.


3 posted on 11/13/2004 12:31:07 PM PST by Viet-Boat-Rider (SLAP a Liberal verbally today! We MUST keep them down where they belong!)
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Great Writer! Unfortunately, I think he started going looney at the end of his life. He also developed a penchant for flirting with incest in his books (Lazarus Long, 'Time Enough for Love' and other references). His books suffered at the end and were somewhat disjointed and he had a quixotic view of religion.

I started reading him in the 70's when I got drafted and eagerly awaited every new novel. My most favorite memories are "Glory Road," "Time Enough for Love," and "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress," (which I consider the best). 'Troopers' is one of his earliest works and wholly not representative of the best of which he was capable.

Take some time (perhaps more than that) and read the rest.....


43 posted on 11/13/2004 1:12:23 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: aruanan; Viet-Boat-Rider; Moriartys Mycroft; Samwise; Wneighbor; schaketo; womcg; Williams; ...
Skim it. It's easy to spot.

Been doing...I think I'm closing in...

Use "The Borg" from Star Trek, better idea.

Can't excerpt a film...

But you should really read the whole thing.

I have. Many times. I'm looking for a particular passage that I don't remember exactly in which chapter it appears...

Google is your friend.

Spent three hours with Google this afternoon...Google was not nice to me...thanks for the link.

Okay, the passage in the book that I found is a later one when Rico is in OCS, chapter XII, maybe halfway through the chapter.

Just closed in on that scene...it may be what I'm looking for. Good to have it confirmed, thanks.

Just as a side - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is one of my all-time favorites. I'm inspired to read it again.

My favorite Heinlein work. Did you know the Tim Miner (late of Firefly) was working on a script for a potential movie version?
No need to fear it'll turn out like ST did - if you've ever watch Firefly you know it has a VERY Heinleinesque style and RAH is reported to be Miner's hero.

I tell you three times: Read the book!

I tell you three times I've read the book every few years for more than two decades. I'm just looking for a particular concise passage and I am having a harder time than I anticipated hunting it down. Thanks for your recomendations but the nature of the assignment requires an actual excerpt from the book, not a discussion of it.

So now we're supposed to do people's homework too?

Um...there's considerably more to the assingment than producing the passage in question. But thanks for the help. ;)

"Under our system, every voter and officeholder is a man who has demonstrated through voluntary and difficult service that he places the welfare of the group ahead of personal advantage. And that is the one practical difference. He may fail in wisdom, he may lapse in civic virtue. But his average performance is enormously better than that of any other class of rulers in history."

That IS it then? I just arrived there last hour and my only point still in doubt was if there was a better statement further on. Good show. Thank you.

I would also recommend his anthology Expanded Universe, where he makes an interesting string of recommendations for who should actually get the franchise.

Agreed. Hadn't thought of that. But since the nature of the assignment implies fiction, ST is probably a better fit.

You're behind the power curve. Shoulda bought a copy, read it, and did your homework sooner.

I don't mean to appear snappy, but this is like the 5th time this has come up...are ANY of you scolders reading my post? I said I had read the book a dozen times. I've not been without a copy in my possesion for 20 years. My only problem is I had assumed I'd quickly find the part I was looking for and it has taken me long enough to concern me some. It's not, after all, the only thing a senior is compelled to read. I knew I could count on SOME of my fellow Freepers to come to the rescue, and they have.


Thanks to everyone with helpful suggestons, and to everyone who posted for the warm fuzzies that come from discussing good books and RAH.
156 posted on 11/13/2004 10:36:10 PM PST by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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