Posted on 11/12/2004 6:39:25 AM PST by SunnySide
Heard this on the t.v. news while on the net. So I don't have a link, source or tv station (Sorry Mr. Mod)
I don't believe an economics professor would make so many spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors.
Being a college professor means never having to answer questions.
Regardless, with regard to your assertion, God said, "before I formed you in the womb I knew you."
What did He form in the womb? YOU.
The penalty for feticide in the Old Testament is an example of the provisional, pastoral Levitical law. God also permitted divorce in the OT, he didn't ordain it. God permitted slavery and concubinage, He didn't ordain it.
Re: #179. Well done.
Thanks
Good heavens, man! Have you ignored all of the posts directed to you? Colleges are seeking out home-schooled students! Studies show they are, overall, more qualified than public school educated students. Perhaps your particular experience with one or two home-schooled students was negative, but you are certainly painting the rest of them with an awfully broad brush!
>>Because the vast majority of parents aren't qualified to teach to their children and schools teach other skills beside the academic ones...
In most cases the "product" is a badly-educated person, without social skills... Not in all cases, but in the majority...
It doesn't say that all schools are "ideal", they aren't... But the fact that parents aren't qualified to teach their children is a fact, especially in specialized courses...<<
I so sorry that you are teaching college courses and have not been around homeschooling families. I'm sure that if you came into our area, around Selfridge ANG in Michigan, you would see what a true homeschooling community is about. You sound very much like my sister, the ex-Cleveland teacher who argued the exact message. Please understand that I have a degree in Business Management but could manage a thing until I got into the business world.
To begin, the vast majority of parents do not get an instruction manual with our children. We teach them language, counting and life skills without being "qualified". It's amazing that any of us turn out ok. When our children turn 4 or 5 we drop them into the hands of "professionals" who teach them the basics that all of us know. Explain why I cannot teach my daughters to add or subtract? Why can't I teach them to read? I'm not "qualified" to teach these?
In most cases, I see positive socialization skills. When I go to a 4-H meeting or Girl Scouts, I see children of all ages playing together. I also see polite, well loved children that are not jumping in one's face because they do not get enough attention from their parents. My girls don't know about sex and thankfully, they will not learn until I teach them. They don't say the words "Fart" nor burp in public thinking it is funny. Those actions which are crass are not acceptable nor amusing in our house. They do not see it in other children.
Could you please enlighten me about the social skills that you feel children ARE lacking by being homeschooled?
Colleges are seeking out these students... To pad the registration... But then they are allowed to fail...
Nobody talks about this, as nobody ever talked about the fact that AA only set a lot of students up for failure by matching them with schools they had not the academic skills to attend...
BTW, thanks for the Ping.
Basically, I am credulous about this thread!!!
I was just wondering if you plan to answer #208 on this thread.
I have children to teach and I was curious.
What a stupid blanket statement to make. Here's a personal example, and I'll tie it back to the topic in this thread: My daughter had Kindergarten at a public school. I saw many examples of dumb liberal policies take their toll on discipline and the learning enviornment. She had 38 kids in that class, one teacher, and occasionally a volunteer parent. First grade at same school lasted about 2 months for us, until she starting bring home the same worksheets (repeated) in October that they did in September. Already, my daughter who loved school and learning was turning sour on the whole thing. We finished first grade through home schooling, and started second grade at a private school. She aced everything in second grade. I mean, she had spelling tests each week and got 1 wrong - over the whole year. Same in math, reading, science, etc. Now we are back to home schooling(along with her sister), so we can properly challenge her. Even so, she typically completes her work in about 2 hours per day, leaving time for reading, projects, exercise, and play with her friends. This further demonstrates the inefficientcy of public school. Not trying to brag, just illustrating our experience.
My friends who have homeschooled teens have found that their kids also have a real socialization problem; there's too darned MUCH of it! ;o)
A former co-worker of mine had no interest in who eventually became her husband when they first met. She found out he was a cobbler. Figured he was a minimum wage loser. When she found out he actually made a hell of a living as a cobbler she took more interest in him.
Exactly right. IMO homeschooling leverages and extends the God given desire to learn and expand, and homeschoolers learn how to teach themselves. Public schools turn out too many drones that need to be spoon fed everything.
3 words - lighten up...
The real question is though, can he put a condom on a cucumber in the proper fashion? If not, you clearly were not qualified to teach him.
I was homeschooled through middle school and junior high. I went on to a public high school, where I graduated in the top 10%. I went on to get a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry and am now pursuing a Juris Doctorate. So, apparently homeschooling didn't hamstring me academically.
My younger sister tracked along with me. She graduated the same year I did, salutorian of her class. She graduated with a B.S. in meterology from a large midwestern school with a 3.75 average. She's now a doctoral student studying meteorlogy at a large southern state school. Sounds like homeschooling really hurt her, didn't it?
My best friend and his brother graduated from high school as homeschooled students. They did okay in college. Not spectacular, but adequately well.
At school, I know three girls who were homeschooled. They are both academically advanced, and socially where they ought to be.
At church, a sizeable portion of the late high school/early college kids I know were homeschooled. Intelligent, sweet kids. No problems whatsoever.
Now, I know homeschooling sometimes fails. When it fails, it fails miserably. We've all seen the failures it can produce: kids who don't know anything, and have zero social skills. But those are very rare. Most of the time, kids whose parents care enough to homeschool them will turn out okay, and do fairly well academically.
"My opinion of public schools is that they operate from a flawed premise"
I love your analogy in this post.
ROTFLMAO
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