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great-grandmother to have twins
foxnews.com ^ | 11/11/04

Posted on 11/11/2004 5:21:30 PM PST by sassbox

A 59-year-old great-grandmother is pregnant with twins and will deliver next month, three decades after she had her tubes tied. "They came untied," Frances Harris (search) said Thursday.

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To: rave123

she must be really fertile then... I hope everything turns out okay.


101 posted on 11/12/2004 7:02:54 PM PST by cyborg
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To: rave123
Well,that's a little better,but not by much.

At 59,she should be worrying about the health of the babies she's carrying!

There are still quite a LOT of unanswered question here and "facts" proffered,that don't stand up.

I never said that she had IVF...those posts referred to another very old new mother of twins.

102 posted on 11/12/2004 7:04:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: rave123

Assumptions can be a dangerous thing when talking about people on welfare. Believe that!


103 posted on 11/12/2004 7:06:38 PM PST by cyborg
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To: nopardons

So what are you suggesting? I saw the lady on the news and the picture does her no justice. She looks 50 years old and healthy. And yes some women especially black women are very fertile and continue to menstrate into their late 50's. It sounds like to me that you are saying she had IVF? Someone else just looked at the picture and asked about welfare. So what is it? Make up your minds.


104 posted on 11/12/2004 7:07:18 PM PST by rave123
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To: rave123

I don't know or care what race this woman is. I read that she started pumping out kids when she was 15 and is still having them 45 years later, and assumed she was gaming the system.
You can call me a racist if you want, but you don't know me and you don't know what you're talking about.


105 posted on 11/12/2004 7:09:11 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: nopardons

God allowed you to have a hangnail.


106 posted on 11/12/2004 7:11:04 PM PST by rave123
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To: nopardons

God allowed you to have a hangnail.


107 posted on 11/12/2004 7:12:58 PM PST by rave123
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To: rave123
First of all,I didn't mention welfare at all.

Secondly,I know that Aleta St.James has the money to take care of her children.

Thirdly,rather than race,I based my replies on the info in the article.Generally 15 year olds (which IS what the article claimed she was,when she had her first child!) aren't usually married and neither do they have jobs.Even the working poor get some government assistance,when they have children and I'm NOT talking about welfare,but programs such as WIC.And this was even MORE true,41 years ago.

Now,don't you feel foolish?

108 posted on 11/12/2004 7:13:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: OwnershipSociety

This is so idiotic. The parent will be dead by the time the child is in high school. It is totally unfair to the children.


109 posted on 11/12/2004 7:14:49 PM PST by FrankRepublican (Arlen Specter = Ted Kennedy Dem Bush = Open Borders w/ Mexico)
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To: Happygal

*giggles*

I'm 32, and I have 9 year old twins. Actually 9.5 if they tell you. . . I had them three weeks before my 23rd birthday. If I had to do it now, I'd cry.

I love having twins, but at the same time, I don't remember much about the first year of their lives, other than what I wrote down. It's about functioning, existing, surviving. . . but I wouldn't trade it. I just do *NOT* want to do it again.


110 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:23 PM PST by twinzmommy (Gen X-er and proud of it!)
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To: nopardons

Isn't it different being fifteen having a baby in the country then being fifteen and having one in the city? I've known a lot of people from the South who grew up in large young families and they didn't have any government assistance. At least out in the country, you can grow your own food and be more self sufficient.


111 posted on 11/12/2004 7:16:47 PM PST by cyborg
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To: FrankRepublican

So what's your proposal to this dilema? After all she did have her tubes tied and usually that is all that is required for effective birth control but things happen for a reason.


112 posted on 11/12/2004 7:18:42 PM PST by CajunConservative
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To: ozzymandus

So why did you ask the welfare question? Many people have had kids early in life(she was 18per the news tonight) and have never received welfare. I think it was because of her race that you interjected that question. And no,,I don't know what you are, that's why I called you on it. To give you an opportunity to respond if you cared to to.


113 posted on 11/12/2004 7:18:46 PM PST by rave123
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To: rave123
Look......I can't help it if YOU have a reading comprehension problem. I DID NOT EVER,NOT ONCE,EVEN IMPLY NOR INFER THAT THIS WOMAN HAD IVF!

Since I have a Masters in teaching the severely mentally retarded,I,probably far better than you,know the risks,even when the mother is a "healthy", but OLD,to babies and carrying twins is even more dangerous to both mother and children.And this mother is not only 59,but overweight!

If you had the education level to understand and comprehend the possibilities,perhaps YOU wouldn't be flying off the handle so. :-)

114 posted on 11/12/2004 7:19:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Actually -no I don't fell foolish, why would I. As I said my news channel said she was 18 and her husband worked. He was also the father of all of the kids including the two to come and they are remarring. Doesn't sound like someone trying to get welfare. And she had a job.
Also, considering WIC, many states do not put restrictions on income for some WIC programs. So the lady in new york could be getting that.
Now don't you feel foolish for your assumptions? Remember the rule about assumptions.


115 posted on 11/12/2004 7:24:20 PM PST by rave123
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To: twinzmommy

My twins were born 54 days before my 31st birthday. Then we followed up with 4 more every two years for 8 years. I always said during that blur of a time, that I'd one day wonder how we did it, and sure enough, I do. I cannot imagine doing it at 45 or 59.


116 posted on 11/12/2004 7:26:13 PM PST by condi2008 (There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations. -Patrick Henry)
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To: nopardons

Actually I have a PHD in HCA and teach and work as a policy consultant on health care issues. But it is not a question of my comprehension but what you said. Mean what you say and say what you mean. What were you implying when you said something didn't add up?


117 posted on 11/12/2004 7:29:20 PM PST by rave123
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To: rave123

So basically, you just want to assume that I'm a racist. Why don't you also call me a sexist, bigot, homophobe and go the whole liberal route? By the way, I also live in a red state and voted for Bush. Does that upset you too?


118 posted on 11/12/2004 7:32:22 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: cyborg
She's 59,even in 1960,15 year olds weren't getting married in rural areas.Of course,we have now been told,that she was 18 and married. But no,rural families can't "grow" diapers and clothes and highchairs and all the rest of the things babies need.And so,bumping this up to 1963,we are suddenly looking at the onslaught of LBJ's " GREAT SOCIETY",when government workers were sent out to even rural areas,tracking people down to put them on the governments' handout rolls.

Be that as it may,this isn't the real problem right now.What if she doesn't escape the odds are the twins are born with problems? Do you have any idea how much such problems can cost?

But what if the babies are okay,but the mother isn't?

Even if EVERYTHING is okay,it's still not going to be easy having twin 15 year olds at 74 and 75!

119 posted on 11/12/2004 7:34:07 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Be that as it may,this isn't the real problem right now.What if she doesn't escape the odds are the twins are born with problems? Do you have any idea how much such problems can cost?


*** Agreed...even with very good insurance, the costs of an infant with birth defects is astronomical. Usually insurance companies do their very best to stiff the policyholder which is pretty sad.


120 posted on 11/12/2004 7:37:00 PM PST by cyborg
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