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This is an extreme complication of matters in Iraq. The action Turkey intends to take will bring Turkish forces into direct military contact with US forces in the area, with their target being the Peshmerga - our allies in Northern Iraq.

The Peshmerga have been sending weapons into Turkey as of late, while Iran has been forging ties with both sides of the conflict. Officially, Iran has been much more visible in Turkey signing agreements with the government. Unofficially, the Iranians have been a major supplier to the al Qaida network that exists in Turkey - a network formed during the Bosnian war and maintained to send troops and supplies to Chechnya.

This could end up being a real mess. Basically, the continuing legacy of the Clinton administration's decisions in the area are once again coming home to roost - and are putting our forces in harm's way unneccessarily.

Following Turkey's refusal to allow us to use their frontier with Iraq during the initiation of the war, I can't see us doing anything to help them. Quite to the contrary, the Peshmerga have been extremely faithful allies in the Iraq war and we should stand behind them against Turkey. Allies come and go, and it looks like since Turkey is going to join the EU, we may yet be at war with an EU member in the near future.

Interesting times, indeed.

1 posted on 11/11/2004 3:43:19 PM PST by datura
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WTF are these idiots thinking!


2 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:01 PM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?


3 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:50 PM PST by elizabetty
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It will never happen....there are 140,000 reasons sitting in Iraq that see to it.... that this invasion will never happen.

Turkey is all bluster.

4 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:59 PM PST by Dog
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Hey Turkey.... STUFF IT!


5 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:59 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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That would be a very dumb move on Turkey's part.


6 posted on 11/11/2004 3:46:14 PM PST by CWOJackson
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So we choose between Turkey and the Peshmerga?

Wow. Though as Stalin said,"You can walk with the devil until you get to the bridge."

Still, war between Turkey and Iran might open other doors of opportunity for securing American national interest.


8 posted on 11/11/2004 3:46:51 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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"The United States has refused numerous Turkish appeals to eliminate the PKK strongholds."

I have no idea whether the above article is true or not. But both the US, Turkey and Israel have a vested interest in routing out the Commie-Terrorist PKK wherever they exist. I will be the first to admit, however, that to do so right now would create unnecessary agrivations that are best left alone until we secure Iraq. But if the PKK launches renewed attacks against Turkey, or the US for that matter, all bets are off.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 3:47:38 PM PST by TapTheSource
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Well, one has to wonder how much of this is actually true.


11 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:20 PM PST by Trippin
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Maybe the Turks can get Hussein (assuming he hasn't already been hanged) to be their,there,they're [pick one] ally in the invasion.


12 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:22 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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Firstly, I doubt this report. If it is true, why warn the US? Either to get con$ideration$, or to try to influence the new government to reign in Kurd autonomy.
15 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:52 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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I am to believe this..why?


18 posted on 11/11/2004 3:49:42 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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The Turks MISSED their opportunity to assist. The Kurds are the backbone of the new IRAQI Army. Therefor, the Turks should expect the survivability of their troops to be about 20 minutes, tops.

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20 posted on 11/11/2004 3:50:07 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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The Turks are rattling their bluff sabres in hopes of getting some goodies from Uncle Sugar.


22 posted on 11/11/2004 3:50:48 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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Turkey refused to help the US in Iraq. Now Turkey wants to attack Iraq to control the Kurds, who became our allies. Not a smart move on Turkeys part, at least in the long run. That boneheaded plan needs to be reconsidered.


25 posted on 11/11/2004 3:51:21 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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The hell with Turkey. The Duelfer report showed they were neck-deep in skirting the UN sanctions on Iraq. They also refused to let our 4th ID enter Iraq from the North at the start of the war...despite earlier promises to do so. We need to make it clear to them that *any* incursion into Iraq by *any* country in the Middle East will be dealt with using the full force of the US military.



27 posted on 11/11/2004 3:51:45 PM PST by bw17
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I KNEW this would happen. Everytime I've played a world scenario on Civ 3, Turkey has ALWAYS invaded Iraq.


28 posted on 11/11/2004 3:52:00 PM PST by streetpreacher
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An invasion of northern Iraq by Turkey, while unlikely, could serve U.S. and even E.U. purposes. It would give the U.S. reasonable cause to smack Iran (for supporting the invasion). And it would give the E.U. an excuse to remove Turkey from the track of E.U. membership. The E.U. has lately been waking up to the dangers of unrestricted trade and open borders with a country of 70+ million muslims.


32 posted on 11/11/2004 3:54:03 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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No doubt the Turks have plans for invading all neighboring countries. However, they didn't cooperate with us in moving the 4th Infantry Division into Iraq so they can go screw themselves ~ now, if the Iranians need a small corridor so they can invade Turkey and place atomic landmines in the Eastern march areas so that Turkey is no longer a threat to Iran, that could probably be arranged, all things considered, and after Iran gets rid of the Mullahs of course!


35 posted on 11/11/2004 3:54:48 PM PST by muawiyah
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This is BS


36 posted on 11/11/2004 3:54:58 PM PST by Uncledave (Body parts everywhere!)
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If the U.S. handles this right and doesn't cave to Turkey's aspirations this could unite Iraqi's while at the same time making them generally more friendly to the U.S., although this may just be restricted to the Kurds. It depends on how Shiites think about Turks invading Kurdish Iraqi territory. Perhaps they think of themselves as separate and don't consider the Kurds worthy of any kind of defense.


37 posted on 11/11/2004 3:56:02 PM PST by nosofar
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