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Turkey Warns US It Plans To Invade Northern Iraq Shortly After Elections
Geostrategy-Direct.com (Subscription Site) ^ | 11 Nov 04 | Geostrategy-Direct.com

Posted on 11/11/2004 3:43:19 PM PST by datura

FOCUS ON TURKEY

Turkey warns U.S. it plans to invade northern Iraq shortly after elections


ANKARA — Turkey's military has begun preparing for what officials warned could result in a major invasion of neighboring Iraq.

Officials said the Turkish General Staff has drafted plans for an invasion by at least 20,000 troops into northern Iraq in early 2005. They said the General Staff has urged approval from the government of Prime Minister Recep Erdogan and discussed the proposed invasion with the United States.

"The current phase is to show the United States that we're serious," a Turkish government source said. "After the Iraqi elections in January, the Turkish military will be ready to move."

The military has called for a massive operation in northern Iraq to prevent Kurdish militias from controlling the area. The General Staff has been particularly alarmed by the reported Kurdish effort to drive out ethnic Turks from Kirkuk, the oil capital of northern Iraq and long claimed by Ankara.

Under the Turkish plan, the military would deploy at least 20,000 Turkish troops in an enclave south of the Iraqi-Turkish border. The force would focus on eliminating the Kurdish Workers Party and ensure the return of Turkmens to Kirkuk.

About 3,000 PKK fighters are said to be based in northern Iraq and have been sending insurgents and weaponry for attacks inside neighboring Turkey.

The United States has refused numerous Turkish appeals to eliminate the PKK strongholds.

On Oct. 14 Erdogan and his cabinet reviewed the General Staff's plan. That meeting, attended by Chief of Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok and Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul, discussed the rapid deployment of up to 40,000 troops in northern Iraq.

A scaled-down version of the military plan was discussed in the national security council on Oct. 27. The officials said that over the last week some units have already been deployed along the Iraqi-Turkish border.

Officials said the General Staff has sought to prepare two army divisions to cross the Iraqi border within 18 hours of any approval of the operation.

The first goal of the ground operation, supported by fighter-jets and attack helicopters, would be to destroy PKK strongholds in the Kandil mountains in northern Iraq.

The General Staff has warned the cabinet that Ankara could no longer ignore the Kurdish threat. Officials said the military has determined that Kurds from Iran and Syria have bolstered support for the PKK.

Iranian and Syrian Kurds, they said, have participated in PKK attacks against police and military targets in southeastern Turkey over the last week.

Officials said the General Staff has sought to obtain U.S. approval for the operation in northern Iraq. But Washington has not provided implicit approval.

The Erdogan government has sought to delay any Turkish military operation until after the European Union summit on Dec. 17. The government intends to spare the EU any pretext to delay a date for accession.

Officials said the Peshmerga are digging tunnels and establishing outposts outside Dahouk, near the Turkish border.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackhelicopters; geopolitics; hoax; iraq; kurds; southwestasia; tinfoil; turkey
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This is an extreme complication of matters in Iraq. The action Turkey intends to take will bring Turkish forces into direct military contact with US forces in the area, with their target being the Peshmerga - our allies in Northern Iraq.

The Peshmerga have been sending weapons into Turkey as of late, while Iran has been forging ties with both sides of the conflict. Officially, Iran has been much more visible in Turkey signing agreements with the government. Unofficially, the Iranians have been a major supplier to the al Qaida network that exists in Turkey - a network formed during the Bosnian war and maintained to send troops and supplies to Chechnya.

This could end up being a real mess. Basically, the continuing legacy of the Clinton administration's decisions in the area are once again coming home to roost - and are putting our forces in harm's way unneccessarily.

Following Turkey's refusal to allow us to use their frontier with Iraq during the initiation of the war, I can't see us doing anything to help them. Quite to the contrary, the Peshmerga have been extremely faithful allies in the Iraq war and we should stand behind them against Turkey. Allies come and go, and it looks like since Turkey is going to join the EU, we may yet be at war with an EU member in the near future.

Interesting times, indeed.

1 posted on 11/11/2004 3:43:19 PM PST by datura
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To: datura

WTF are these idiots thinking!


2 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:01 PM PST by ChefKeith (Life is GREAT with CoCo..........NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: datura


What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?


3 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:50 PM PST by elizabetty
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To: datura
It will never happen....there are 140,000 reasons sitting in Iraq that see to it.... that this invasion will never happen.

Turkey is all bluster.

4 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:59 PM PST by Dog
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To: datura

Hey Turkey.... STUFF IT!


5 posted on 11/11/2004 3:45:59 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: datura

That would be a very dumb move on Turkey's part.


6 posted on 11/11/2004 3:46:14 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: elizabetty
"What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?"

Yes.

7 posted on 11/11/2004 3:46:45 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: datura

So we choose between Turkey and the Peshmerga?

Wow. Though as Stalin said,"You can walk with the devil until you get to the bridge."

Still, war between Turkey and Iran might open other doors of opportunity for securing American national interest.


8 posted on 11/11/2004 3:46:51 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: datura

"The United States has refused numerous Turkish appeals to eliminate the PKK strongholds."

I have no idea whether the above article is true or not. But both the US, Turkey and Israel have a vested interest in routing out the Commie-Terrorist PKK wherever they exist. I will be the first to admit, however, that to do so right now would create unnecessary agrivations that are best left alone until we secure Iraq. But if the PKK launches renewed attacks against Turkey, or the US for that matter, all bets are off.


9 posted on 11/11/2004 3:47:38 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: ChefKeith; datura
I had been wondering about all the behind the scene deals that were being cut in the EU negotiations with Turkey by France and others to see if Turkey was ready to be part of the EU.

I guess one of the requirements for EU membership must have been the screw over the Bush Administration and the American people in their Iraq war effort.

About the only explaination I can come up with.

10 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:12 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: datura

Well, one has to wonder how much of this is actually true.


11 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:20 PM PST by Trippin
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To: datura

Maybe the Turks can get Hussein (assuming he hasn't already been hanged) to be their,there,they're [pick one] ally in the invasion.


12 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:22 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: elizabetty
What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?

Don't need to shoot them.

Napalm and CBU's work real good.

LVM

13 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:28 PM PST by LasVegasMac ("5 times ain't sh!t - My Daddy won here 10 times" DEjr)
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To: elizabetty

I certainly would tell them that northern Iraq is currently under US military control. For them to enter a zone of US military control with fighting forces constitutes an attack on US forces.

They certainly wouldn't be flying in there for more than a few minutes, and then once their aircraft are destroyed I would threaten to destroy their ground forces.

This is no different than if Iran were to mount an attack on northern Iraq - same/same.


14 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:44 PM PST by datura (Rabies and lead poisoning combined with advanced syphilis approximates liberalism.)
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Firstly, I doubt this report. If it is true, why warn the US? Either to get con$ideration$, or to try to influence the new government to reign in Kurd autonomy.
15 posted on 11/11/2004 3:48:52 PM PST by atomicpossum (I am the Cat that walks by himself, and all places are alike to me.)
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To: elizabetty
What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?

Somebody needs to send Turkey a few DVDs loaded with Dubya's post-9-11
speeches and all the following controversy over the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive attack.

It's clear that this must be Turkish politicians talking...
Unlike most other country, it's the military officer corps (of Turkey)
that keeps the country balanced.
Crazy things happen when the politicians get out of hand.
16 posted on 11/11/2004 3:49:07 PM PST by VOA
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To: elizabetty
What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?

Shoot to kill and bomb the living hell out of these idiots.

17 posted on 11/11/2004 3:49:29 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: datura

I am to believe this..why?


18 posted on 11/11/2004 3:49:42 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: All

You folks take this article seriously why?


19 posted on 11/11/2004 3:49:54 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: datura
The Turks MISSED their opportunity to assist. The Kurds are the backbone of the new IRAQI Army. Therefor, the Turks should expect the survivability of their troops to be about 20 minutes, tops.

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20 posted on 11/11/2004 3:50:07 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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