Cuyahoga County Ohio - 93,000 extra votes?? (for Kerry) ??

http://boe.cuyahogacounty.us/BOE/results/currentresults1.htm ^ | 11-8-04

[soccer_linux_mozilla]

Anyone have an explanation of these numbers from Cuyahoga County, Ohio?

REGISTERED VOTERS - OAKWOOD VIL 2746

BALLOTS CAST OAKWOOD VIL 7099

REGISTERED VOTERS - MORELAND HILLS VIL 2990

BALLOTS CAST MORELAND HILLS VIL 4616

REGISTERED VOTERS - MIDDLEBURG HEIGHTS 12713

BALLOTS CAST - MIDDLEBURG HEIGHTS 14854

[bad company]

The county figures are: 1,005,807 registered voters

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/39/39035.html

According to the U.S. census bureau the population of Cuyahoga County, Ohio is 1,363,888 for 2003. Persons under 18 account for 25%.(That's 340,972) leaving 1,022,919 residents over the age of 18 (possible voters, not nessecarily eligible voters.)

665334 ballots were cast in Cuyahoga County putting turnout at more that 2/3. Much higher than the countries average.

This stinks to high heaven.

[MJY1288]

feeling much better

[livius]

Provisional ballots are not the problem and, while cumbersome, have probably managed to weed out at least some fraud in this election.

Double voting, the voting of the dead, etc. is the real problem. Why not make a standard photo ID - driver's license or state ID card for non-drivers - a requirement for registration? Right now, some states don't even require any form of photo ID.

And then develop a national database of voters for federal election purposes, using the Social Security # of the voter as the main key, but other ID as well for illegal immigrants or others who might have phony SS#s. The infrastructure for this is already in place, and all it would require is a little standardization of state election laws (and I think some constitutional way has got to be found for standardizing election law for federal elections).

[Sparky760]

The Dems live in a dream world. After the 2000 elections they cried and whined until finally the media put together a group to recount the recount. In the end they reported Bush still won. Did this end it? NO. You can show these people all the proof in the world and they will still believe what they believe.

[Maria S]

"Someone with a DU account should post this over there."


I think they've stopped taking new registrants...and anyone else had better post ONLY pro-kerry comments! Else you're out!

[Kenton]

Oakwood though, is a poorer black community probably very pro-Kerry.

Actually, I'd disagree on this. The poorer black areas are in, or closer to the central city (Cleveland). Oakwood is solidly middle-class black. But the whole Cuyahoga County is dominated by the Democratic Party, and I'd agree that the 5,000 "mystery voters" in Oakwood were Kerry votes exclusively.

[End Times Sentinel]

love to see the numbers for detroit, philly and milwaukee...

Just to set the background, the state is very slow in getting new street lists, registration information to candidates and ward leaders, etc.  HOWEVER, street lists based on last fall's mayoral election here in Philadelphia had @15k voters in my District (that's including a lot of dead or relocated people).  We had about 23k voters show up last Tuesday.

 

If it weren't for fraud, there wouldn't be a democrat party.

 

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

[blteague]

lovely...don't you love MSM not thinking anything of that?! In your opinion, did W win PA?

[Mr. Silverback]

My sister-in-law tells me there are precincts in Milwaukee County with vote tallies that were 115% of the number of registered voters.

I think they stole Wisconsin, but fortunately it didn't matter.

[ohioWfan]

But we would not get bi-partisan support of one vote per (live) citizen, because that would 'rob' the Dems of the few victories they still get. :o)

But I agree.......second term, voter ID, and in your own precinct only......uniform throughout the nation.

[End Times Sentinel]

Well, the margin was about 120k last I saw.  We had some military ballots that were not counted, some prison ballots that were, a good deal of fraud in Philadelphia, probably to a similar if not somewhat lesser extent in the 'Burgh.

It's inarguable that it would certainly be too close to call.

It was good to hear R leadership say they were thinking of putting more resources into Philadelphia.  We're never going to win Phi, but hopefully, we can at least supress the fraud to the point where the rest of the state has a chance to have their votes counted.

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

[ohioWfan]

Even "Team Election Fraud DNC" underestimated how strong George W. Bush would be in Ohio.

Team BUSH knew there would be all kinds of voter fraud, and worked to get the margin so great that it wouldn't make a difference.

Smart move, eh?

[Gone GF]

"Someone with a DU account should post this over there. We can start a pool to see how long it stays up. /puts the money on 15 minutes"

Ooops, you lose. Two threads on it and they've been up for almost a day. Of course they think the numbers represent Republican fraud.

But as explained at post 11 it looks like it's not fraud at all, just somebody's mistake.

[FreedomPoster]

Do you have a point?

I spent 5 minutes with Excel, using the data from the site linked, and came up with 97489 votes cast in excess of 100% of precinct registrations.

Nice work, soccer_linux_mozilla.

[antaresequity]

Do a forum search...

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[Tuxedo]

You're right... I guess by poorer, one could say poorer than Middleburg Hts and Moreland Hills (there are suburbs in Silicon Valley poorer than Moreland Hills!). Certainly the most blighted areas are East Cleveland, parts of Euclid, Woodmere, Glenville, Collinwood, and eastern portion of Cleveland proper. The Chagrin River/Rt. 91 corridor features affluent voters: Orange, Pepper Pike, Solon (75/25), Moreland Hills, Hunting Valley, etc. Things wind to more traditional as you move west into Mayfield, Lyndhurst, Shaker Heights, Bedford, with more blight in Warrensville Hts, Maple Hts, Garfield Hts. Then you have some Republican areas of Sagamore Hills, Walton Hills, Independence, Seven Hills, Brecksville, Broadview Hts, North Royalton, and Strongsville. Parma is mixed as is Brook Park, Berea, Brooklyn, Middleburg Hts, Fairview Park, and western Cleveland Suburbs. More Republican areas northwest such as Rocky River, Bay Village, Westlake, North Olmsted, Olmsted Falls. And let's not forget the liberal bastions of Lakewood and Cleveland Heights.

[soccer_linux_mozilla]

7,957+ views - wow!!

P.S. Before you guys make judgement on when I joined, keep in mind that my old userID was suspended when I posted a thread about free Gmail invites :( - so don't let me newbieness distract you.

[COBOL2Java]

Don't forget: for Liberals, History began this morning...

[Katya]

Wisconsin has the pro fraud policy of same day registrations....it becomes almost impossible to assess what the actual registration numbers are.