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Democrats Ponder Alternatives: Vote Suppression, Secession and Assassination
Powerlineblog.com ^ | 11/8/04 | Hindrocket

Posted on 11/08/2004 11:17:35 AM PST by finnman69

November 08, 2004

Democrats Ponder Alternatives: Vote Suppression, Secession and Assassination

We have chronicled the decline of Lawrence O'Donnell, as he shrieked incoherently at John O'Neill and denounced President Bush as unfit to be depicted on his television show, The West Wing. Now, reader Craig Knutson says that O'Donnell--who is not just an artiste but a paid commentator on MSNBC--is pondering secession:

Lawrence O'Donnell (I believe this is the Larry that talked on McLaughlin), said the "blue states" should over the next 20 years seriously consider seceding from the union, because the red states are welfare recipients without supporting the federal government.

I don't think a transcript is available yet.

Meanwhile, Minnesota's own Garrison Keillor, who has become more embittered and less funny with every passing year, no longer tries to hide his membership in the nut-bar left. Several readers wrote us about his Prairie Home Companion monologue on Saturday; Nathan Clark sent a transcript:

We're over it. We've moved on. We're just fine. The election was days ago. Days ago. Much has happened since then. We've practically forgotten about it here [laughter] in our rush to enter into new activities, new frontiers, new projects.

I am now the chairman of a national campaign to pass a constitutional amendment to take the right to vote away from born-again Christians.

[enthusiastic audience applause]

Just a little project of mine. My feeling is that born-again people are citizens of heaven, that is where there citizenship is, [laughter] is in heaven, it's not here among us in America.

If you feel that war in the Middle East is simply prophecy fulfilled, if you believe that tribulation and suffering are just the natural conditions of life, if you believe that higher education is vanity, unnecessary, there is only one book that one need to read, if you feel that unemployment is -[glitch]- dependent on him and drawn you closer to him. [laughter] If you feel -[glitch]- lousy healthcare is a portal to paradise, [applause] then you don't really share our same interests, do you? No, you do not.

Sick. I don't think Keillor is the first "humorist" to use political extremism to keep his career going long after he stopped being funny. But whatever happened to Father Emil and that Lutheran guy Keillor used to talk about?

And finally, several readers have pointed out this column by Dean Murphy in today's New York Times, and have wondered: are Murphy and the Times suggesting that the assassination of President Bush is a possible solution to the Democrats' problems? Normally I would assume not. But Murphy's piece begins with the assassination of Lincoln, discusses the political impact of the assassisnation of McKinley, and concludes:

Professor Wilentz of Princeton said that even if the 2004 victory was an incremental one, that should not comfort the Democrats. He said Mr. Rove and Mr. Bush now have a chance to do what Hanna and McKinley never did: Lay the foundation for lasting Republican dominance.

"The Republicans are basically unchecked," Professor Wilentz said. "There is no check in the federal government and no check in the world. They have an unfettered playing field."

Until the next act of God, that is.

I don't know, maybe he was talking about a really big hurricane.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; lawrenceodonnell; mediabias; poweline; schadenfreude
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To: finnman69

Wow... they're whining louder than a 3y/o in the checkout line.

At first it was pure pleasure listening to them kvetch, but now it's getting a bit irritating - perhaps it's time that the Pajama Brigade start calling these folks on their psychotic subversions.


21 posted on 11/08/2004 11:33:47 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: pro libertate

Yes, that is what they mean. What they don't tell you is that most of the taxes paid in the blue states are paid by Republicans--red people in a blue land, God bless 'em!


22 posted on 11/08/2004 11:34:04 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Can we shoot them for sedition yet?


23 posted on 11/08/2004 11:38:57 AM PST by boofus
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To: finnman69
What is this unchecked nonsense? I mean seriously this is so ridiculous! The Dems had control of everything for a long time and now that they don't they are going nuttier than fruitcake.

Look forward to having liberals "imposed" upon us for the sake of checks and balances... These so called professors have never taken a civics course in their life. Shhesh...
24 posted on 11/08/2004 11:39:38 AM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: finnman69

Add Dean Murphy to the collection of whacko leftists who'll be getting a visit from the Secret Service.


25 posted on 11/08/2004 11:44:43 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Dan Rather plans to spend the winter in Valley Forgery.-hflynn)
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To: bikepacker67

I think they may become dangerous.


26 posted on 11/08/2004 11:46:47 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
Lawrence O'Donnell (I believe this is the Larry that talked on McLaughlin), said the "blue states" should over the next 20 years seriously consider seceding from the union, because the red states are welfare recipients without supporting the federal government.

Why wait? How about leaving today. There are probably more welfare recipients in the heavy blue counties than the red counties.

27 posted on 11/08/2004 11:46:58 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (****We won - - - you lost - - - - GET OVER IT!!****)
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To: finnman69
...the "blue states" should over the next 20 years seriously consider seceding from the union...

The trouble is the Blue "States" are largely only dense urban areas within otherwise Red States. Once they gear up their seccession projects, they will be unable to drag the rest of the red counties with them.

In California, LA County, and the coastal Northern CA counties would have to go it without the rest of the state. They might find that prospect unpalatable.

This could be environmentally advantageous, as the dam at Hetchy Hetchy that supplies SF with water could be dismantled, and a second Yosemite glacial valley restored. I am sure that SF could get by with multibillion $$ desalination plants.

28 posted on 11/08/2004 11:47:58 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Alas Babylon!

I have had SO MUCH fun lurking over at DU. These people still have no clue.

The finger pointing that is currently going on on the Liberal Left and the Democratic party will echo for years to come.

I don't think they will ever be able ot get any sort of massive voter turn out for the mid-terms. Yes allot can happen between now and then. but if in that time Iraq has elections, the the Middle East simmers down, our economy thrives . . . . The Dems won't have much to hang their hats on.

We all know the Dems will fight tooth and nail to stop Bush from filling up those court positions. I think he needs to pull a trick from The Gipper. Begin naming those that oppose his selections, call mini news conferances and name them. Right now they are scared, and if "W" comes out swinging his axe big time they will not be able to mount an efective fillibuster.


29 posted on 11/08/2004 11:49:32 AM PST by TheShaz (If the Kerry Campaign was the movie TITANIC - this would be the scene where the rats are running.)
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To: finnman69
O' Donnel wants blue States to secede.
Why punish entire States, when according to the red/blue County map only a few counties within blue States are blue, but the majority is red.
O'Donnel, while accusing blue States of being welfarers for not paying enough in taxes, go and secede with blue counties, do not punish red counties in blue States wit secession.
After secession these freed red Counties then can enjoy tax cuts of significance.
30 posted on 11/08/2004 11:50:11 AM PST by hermgem
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To: finnman69
O'Donnell should have been placed on medical leave long ago, if not fired.

Seems socres of Kerry groupies have to much time and too little common sense.

31 posted on 11/08/2004 11:52:35 AM PST by Dante3
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To: hermgem

O'Donnel doesn't yet realize that he's among the cultural castoffs.


32 posted on 11/08/2004 11:59:05 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: finnman69
And finally, several readers have pointed out this column by Dean Murphy in today's New York Times, and have wondered: are Murphy and the Times suggesting that the assassination of President Bush is a possible solution to the Democrats' problems?

Here, they can borrow my pistol I made especially for the occassion.


33 posted on 11/08/2004 12:00:06 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: finnman69

Also, we must all work diligently in the coming months to convince “progressives” that the Democratic Party has let them down. They must abandon the party. Their only recourse is to join and work for the Green Party moving forward. I may even register as a Green Party member to swell their voter registration rolls. Divide and conquer.

Begin with putting all known “progressives” in your sphere of influence on the Green Party mail list from their website. Great fun. Start inundating them with information now.


35 posted on 11/08/2004 12:00:15 PM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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To: finnman69; hchutch; Travis McGee

Ping. We have more volunteers for Operation Phoenix!


36 posted on 11/08/2004 12:04:03 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: finnman69
Lawrence O'Donnell (I believe this is the Larry that talked on McLaughlin), said the "blue states" should over the next 20 years seriously consider seceding from the union, because the red states are welfare recipients without supporting the federal government.

Gonna get kind of hungry in Blue Nation!

37 posted on 11/08/2004 12:08:12 PM PST by 6ppc (Pajamas are for wimps! Freep naked!)
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To: finnman69
You're right. The discussion of McKinley is particularly ominous. He had the potential of becoming one of our greatest presidents, but was assassinated, leaving us with the raucous and immensely destructive TR, who eventually tore the Republican party apart, turning the country over to the DemonRats. Bush, like McKinley, is uniquely positioned to create a massive conservative and Republican realignment in his second term. Some of these individuals who so rabidly hate him will almost assuredly conclude that the only solution is assassination. Fortunately, his VP is Dick Cheney, not TR, and Cheney could be counted on to carry on his work. This creates a far greater obstacle for anyone contemplating the ultimate crime.
38 posted on 11/08/2004 12:14:43 PM PST by libstripper
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To: thulldud

If that's the case, guess who probably won't be invited to Thanksgiving dinner?


39 posted on 11/08/2004 12:15:24 PM PST by ladylib
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To: finnman69

With what Army are they going to seceede? Most blue states don't have guns or like fighting.

Not that I would object too much if we sawed off New England and NYC at the Hudson River.


40 posted on 11/08/2004 12:16:00 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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