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GOP TICKET '08
polyester~monkey

Posted on 11/05/2004 6:58:30 PM PST by polyester~monkey

who will it be


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; rudymccainfristjeb
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To: Windcatcher
I like Santorum. I'm sick of losing PA to the leftists.

Unfortunately, Santorum conviced us to BACK a lefist for PA Senate....Specter. So he is out for me.

241 posted on 11/07/2004 2:35:40 PM PST by montag813
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To: MetalHeadConservative35
Lindsay Graham,ted nugent

Lindsay Graham is a RINO skunk. No f'ing way!

242 posted on 11/07/2004 2:36:21 PM PST by montag813
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To: polyester~monkey

Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf ~ Jeb Bush


243 posted on 11/07/2004 2:38:06 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: Aussie Dasher

Noonan?...you have got to be kidding?

That syrupy drawl is nauseous


244 posted on 11/07/2004 2:40:16 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: antaresequity

Re-read any of Ronald Reagan's speeches lately?


245 posted on 11/07/2004 7:01:19 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Your are on target with many of our women leaders.. I have worked for/with many women in power positions - some seem to mix up their leadership role with a one-up on men..for some reason, many women try to mirror the characterization of their perception of powerful men..Women have a terrible time with being feminine and a power player at the same time.. they are either swearing, loud, obnoxious idiots or they become quiet, super sweet belles i.e. Elizabeth Dole.. they seem to have a huge barrier toward develop depth in understanding domestic/international issues or even valuing people or policy. etc all... early on I worked for a very intelligent, powerful and incredibly talented woman who threw a telephone across the room at me when I disagreed with her position on a specific policy.. of course, I walked out.. but she was trying to carry out her vision of a Fortune 500 CEO.. since then, I have been very careful in selecting my peers and leaders (by the way, I am a woman.. 30 years experience in public and private venture executive positions - CEO of corporations responsible for $20-60M..same husband, we have five grown children, I am a Christian and a Republican and love hard, productive work - the challenge!).. Now for the item at hand..
In tandem with your notes .. I carefully reviewed all of our Governors and our Senators.. looked at their positions and tried to superimpose the wonderful County Red/Blue map.. none really hit me as a viable candidate.. however, a few names caused a moment of thought.. of course, Bill Frist.. a minute of dreaming that Joe Lieberman would change his party.. and then a brief pause with Mitch McConnell (husband of Elaine Chao-DOL).. but the one that truly caught my eye was Mitt Romney.. Mass... Centrist, strong East/West connections and son of the former Governor of Michigan George (one of my first summer jobs in college was with the Romney campaign).. While his voting record establishes him as a centrist, it is important to note that he LDS - very active, and from Mass. Know anything about him? He would have to really move to a national stage..
Still thinking.. will get back later.. thank you for your excellent, challenging thoughts..
246 posted on 11/08/2004 6:30:35 AM PST by Fritzy (Fritzy)
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To: antaresequity
Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf ~ Jeb Bush

Too soon for Jeb, the electorate will need a Bush holiday after eight years of Dubya, and anyway they'll be getting as nervous about dynastic politics as I am.

Though he would remain a possibility down the line if he remains in public life.

Generals, as a rule, haven't made good presidents, though. "Unconditional Surrender" Grant was a great general and an ineffectual, even dismal, president. Zachary Taylor, "Old Rough and Ready", ate a bowl of cherries and died. Wm. Henry Harrison, "Old Tippecanoe", got rained on and died. Eisenhower was more successful, but even his administration carried an air of marking time, as the Wall Street interests put making money at the top of the national agenda. Only President Washington stands out as a former top general in the presidency.

247 posted on 11/08/2004 7:47:05 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
[Quoting] "Condi and Powell are both pro-aborts..."

I know this and that is why judicial candidates are so important NOW.

Excellent point that can't be made resoundingly enough. But Dubya keeps elevating people like Miguel Estrada, who is in that same RiNOferous vein as Condi, Powell, and X41.

The acid test comes when Justice Rehnquist (may he overcome his terrible illness and live long) retires. Will Dubya elevate Justice Scalia? That's what I see as the acid test.

If Dubya names Scalia CJ, then O'Connor, who was hoping for it, will retire. But O'Connor has been waiting to retire, we've been told, for two or three years. Did Dubya whisper something into her ear? If he elevates O'Connor, we're screwed -- she voted to reaffirm Roe, and then she was the swing vote on the Lawrence crudity. O'Connor as CJ would play keep-away with Scalia and Thomas until they both turned blue, and Ginzburg would wind up being the intellectual on the court instead of Scalia -- then the Tenth Amendment restoration is toast, federalism is toast, and Hamiltonian Big Government and the Commerce Clause totalitarians are back in business. Want that?

X41 nominated Souter. I'm afraid Dubya is going to nominate more Souters. That's the problem.

248 posted on 11/08/2004 7:59:41 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: polyester~monkey

Bill Owens is the frontrunner in my opinion. Mike Huckabee would be a good choice. But some other strongly conservative candidates need to come forward.


249 posted on 11/08/2004 8:01:10 AM PST by HallowThisGround (http://www.opiniontimes.com)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Nope. Barak Obama will be the new minority darling child of the Dems, which leaves Harold Ford out.


250 posted on 11/08/2004 8:07:39 AM PST by rintense
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Oh, and lest anyone's forgotten........Ruth Bader Ginzburg, I read somewhere, was of counsel, or even the attorney of record, for the Armies of Darkness in Roe vs. Wade. That's why The Rapist put her on the Court, to lobby some more for NARAL from the High Court bench.

Just like putting Thurgood Marshall, who argued ex parte in Brown vs. Board of Education, on the bench to be an advocate on the Court for the civil rights leadership.

Liberals have used the Supreme Court as a third, and decretory, legislative chamber, nominating a long line of totally partisan positivist spear-carriers to the High Court. And Republicans keep nominating secret swingers, rusty gates, and middle-of-the-roaders.

251 posted on 11/08/2004 8:07:40 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Condi Rice Pres.

JC Watts V. Pres.

252 posted on 11/08/2004 8:33:11 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel eonomy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: mylife

AllenGulliani2008


253 posted on 11/08/2004 8:38:34 AM PST by NobleEagle2004 ("You Are The 1st Brigade!"StoneWall Jackson)
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To: Fritzy; Little Bill; ElectricStrawberry; djjava; johnny7; swilhelm73; guinnessboy; SteveMcKing; ...
Working as I have in the petroleum industry, which has been a moose club which views "diversity" mostly as a tool for managing outyear G&A liabilities to current longtime employees (i.e. cutting their throats on their 50th birthday), I haven't had that much experience with female managers. There are a few around, who've Title-IX'd their way up some major-company trees, especially when the Clintonistas were using federal leases as a lever: several companies rolled over completely and spent long years actively and creatively discriminating against white male employees. These firms have produced some competent female execs, so the Title IX hothouse hasn't been exactly bankrupt. Nevertheless, I never worked for any of them, and yes, it seemed to me that the women I encountered in responsible positions (in meetings, in two cases during job interviews) seemed to be even more tightly-wound and heart-attack bound than any of the men I'd run into over the previous ten years who'd labored under the same industrywide binds: no money, no staff, and senior management constantly cutting staff in order to (as I heard, but no proof) force middle management to do a better job reducing portfolio risk -- oftentime with a view to an eventual sale of the company.

That all said, politics it seems to me is completely different from business, much less industry, so I can't extrapolate from my experience.

Regarding Bill Frist, he doesn't have national prominence yet; he hasn't been in the Senate long enough, and has only been in leadership a couple of years, if that. I like that he's a Tennesseean, and a medical doctor, so he would have a ton of credibility on a number of hot-button issues, but still his best situation for the middle future will be in the Senate, building a track record.

Mitch McConnell has, unless I'm mistaking him for someone else, a very large liability as the GOP's PACman. He fought the 'Rat's CFR scam every step of the way, and in so doing sacrificed his national rep, IMHO, by appearing to front for the PAC-lubricated status quo, as a partisan for the Lobby. The People hate the Lobby and for good reason, since the Lobby competes with them, flouts them, and grows fat off their substance through the bacterial feeding processes of corporate welfare. McConnell is probably the one Republican in the Senate who has as much baggage as Hillary.

Mitt Romney I don't know enough about. Had a conversation about him with a FReeper a couple of years ago.....we might oughta ping some Taxachusetts FReepers to our board and ask them. How about it, guys? Think Midwestern conservatives would go for Mitt?

Pinging Mass. FReepers for background on Mitt.....we're handicapping future Prezzy candidates and our amigo brought him up.

254 posted on 11/08/2004 10:46:21 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Mogger
Condi has exposure, but as I posted above, she's staff. She needs serious elective-office experience, preferably as a governor -- or shall we make that Governator? She needs to be out in California next week, getting groomed by Ahnuld and other top Pubbies to be their next governor.

J.C. Watts is top people and a political threat to the Democrats, to break up (finally!) Deal with the Devil that the black community's leadership made with the urban Left back in the 1930's. But he has only been a Congressman, he needs heavying up. Not yet ready.

255 posted on 11/08/2004 10:56:52 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Fritzy
I have worked for/with many women in power positions - some seem to mix up their leadership role with a one-up on men..for some reason, many women try to mirror the characterization of their perception of powerful men....

I suppose this is a phase they're going through, like longuette swimwear in the 1920's or riding sidesaddle. My problem is that so many of them are feminists and apt to designate me an Enemy Target because I'm conservative and I have issues about so many women being in the workforce while latchkey kids turn into either State-molded Kerry voters or semisocialized, sugar-tweaking latchkey barbarians.

We discussed Elizabeth Dole and Condi Rice: their public careers have been laudable to spectacular, but where are their children? Generalizing from their examples, can society afford to extinguish so many talented genetic lines? I noticed, among other wanderings, that a couple of women astronauts (I don't like calling them "females" and "males" -- that hyperclinical language is demeaning) had to take career pauses to have their families: time for just a couple of quick babies (deferred, by the way, into their late 30's -- how good is that?), and then back to work. I'm referring particularly to Anna Fisher, one of the older astronauts who's never been up (she's an MD and has tended to get tagged for postflight medical duties), who took a sabbatical, and Eileen Collins, who finished out her career as a field-grade officer in the Air Force, where she was flying C-141's when not flying space shuttles, had a couple of kids pretty quickly, and then was back in the saddle, all apparently while still in the astronaut corps as a civilian. I mention these two women as good examples of making one's family pretzel around career requirements that are not particularly family-friendly since they were based on the original moose-club model of an all-male, mostly-military astronaut corps.

Returning to the larger demographic questions about family formation and population replacement, it seems, too, that the Business Class RiNOs' answer to the birth deficit in what we used to call the American population is to import masses of people from Asia and Latin America to be our bottle-washers and baby-makers -- oh, what a good plan! Alienate the population base.....I'm particularly minded of a University of Houston professor's history lecture in which he gave rapid demographic change as one of the principal causes of the American Revolution. Yes, by all means let's get that cheap labor in here, and have ourselves a few good quarters before the next civil war.

Remind me to bore you with a story from Polybius sometime, about the civic vision of businessmen.

We need a different work/family arrangement, and we'll need to use the People's lawmaking power to get managements to back off the demands they're making on their talent. They have these other important agenda called lives.....

But that's just me talking.

256 posted on 11/08/2004 11:29:45 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Good insights - and far beyond what I know of SCOTUS. Did you happen to hear Hugh Hewitt this evening? He made a case for allowing Specter to remain in the judiciary commitee and even allowing him the leadership. In essence, his argument is rooted in the idea that it is possible to go too far too fast as Gingrich did after '94 and ended up toast. I think he may have posted his thoughts on his site, but I haven't gone over to look it up yet - just checking in here. Thanks for your very informed views!


257 posted on 11/08/2004 7:55:02 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (What can you expect from a political party full of master-debators?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Frist is a lovely man, but highly ineffective as Majority Leader.


258 posted on 11/08/2004 7:55:45 PM PST by MHT
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To: polyester~monkey

We are not winning anything unless we take care of the elitists in the mainstream media that almost stole this election.


259 posted on 11/08/2004 7:58:10 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: polyester~monkey

We already went through this earlier in the day...

Senator Allen of VA and Condi Rice for VP is my vote...


260 posted on 11/08/2004 8:06:59 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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