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2008 George, George Allen!

Posted on 11/05/2004 11:25:12 AM PST by maineman

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To: ampat
Looks like he voted against a bill that prevented lawsuits against gun manufacturers...

The Senate version of the bill had so many "poison pill" expansions of Federal gun-control laws, including an AWB extension, that it needed to die. The House passed a clean version of the bill, and hopefully there were enough Republican gains in the Senate to pass a clean version next year.

As for Allen's stance on the AWB, he was initally against it, flipped his position in October, 2000 just before he was elected, then flipped back this year by voting against it when it was approved as an amendment to the lawsuit pre-emption bill. I suspect he changed his stance because 1) Governor Mark Warner will challenge Allen for his seat in 2006, 2) Warner has done nothing to anger gun owners and in fact has signed into law every pro-gun bill passed by our General Assembly, and 3) Allen is a savvy enough politician to realize that angering one of the GOP's core constituencies in a "red" state is not the way to get re-elected.

Senator Warner, OTOH, is a disappintment.

81 posted on 11/06/2004 11:49:12 AM PST by gieriscm
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To: Corin Stormhands

From the replies, sounds like the majority of you like George Allen.


82 posted on 11/06/2004 9:19:40 PM PST by maineman
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To: Corin Stormhands

Actually they can serve as many terms as they like .. but not consecutively. The restriction, in the state constitution, is just on consecutive terms.


83 posted on 01/31/2005 10:34:08 AM PST by croasdale
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To: croasdale

Thanks. I'd always heard it explained the other way.

Had to go read the Constitution to find out you are indeed correct.

;-)


84 posted on 01/31/2005 10:42:24 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: maineman

A great man. I grew up watching his father coach my favorite team.


85 posted on 01/31/2005 10:45:41 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: maineman

Allen keeps looking better and better.
But I'm going to wait until 2008 to pledge my support for any particular nominee.


86 posted on 05/28/2005 4:38:33 PM PDT by mowkeka (If you thought I hated McCain before, I am FURIOUS now!!!!!!!!)
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To: GianniV

He was governor before he was Senator.


87 posted on 05/28/2005 4:42:30 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

I don't care what Frist is doing, he is unelectable. He does not inspire. He is slack-faced and malleable. He does not project anything inspiring. He is NOT telegenic, a requisite nowadays. And most of all, you do not get a sense, unconsciously, that "This guy can lead!"

I get it with W (even if I disagree with him on things), and I get it with George Allen.

And if Frist is the nominee, think of what happened the last time we ran a pale candidate (Bob Dole): A Clinton got elected. Same thing this time.


88 posted on 05/28/2005 4:45:37 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: gieriscm

Warner will not run for the US Senate against George Allen. He can't win. He may very well run for POTUS. We shall see.


89 posted on 05/28/2005 4:49:00 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: BCR #226

You're right. Hilary will protect your gun rights.


90 posted on 05/28/2005 4:49:38 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: moose2004

I will not vote for any Republican ticket that includes John McCain...and I am one of millions. Perhaps your post was in jest.


91 posted on 05/28/2005 4:52:18 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: GianniV

Normally I would agree with you that Senators are not good Presidential candidates. But since Hillary will be the Dem nominee and she's a Senator you'd have Senator vs. Senator. And of course Allen was a Gov.


92 posted on 05/28/2005 4:52:52 PM PDT by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: maineman

Thanks for the post, information.


93 posted on 05/28/2005 4:53:58 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: maineman

You are right, re Santorum. IF he is elected in '06 (and that's a big if), he would likely not bring home PA were he to be the nominee for prez in '08.


94 posted on 05/28/2005 4:54:18 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: Jhensy
We have a wealth of riches in our party! Good times.

Too bad none of the "leadership" sports a pair of huevos, though. THAT has to get fixed, and muy pronto.

95 posted on 05/28/2005 4:58:01 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (I don't drink and FReep...it just looks that way)
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To: maineman
George Allen on Gun Control Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)

Is that supposed to be good?

96 posted on 05/28/2005 5:00:15 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Godebert

Okay, it's agreed, You will not support Allen, because he supports the "leftist anti-gun agenda." Yeah, he's just like Hilary (who will be your president if one-issue folks like you stay home; and if she's president, then you will know what that leftist anti-gun agenda really is).

You know, it really is true: The extreme gun-rightists are equivalent to the extreme abortion-rightists. If anyone comes forth with a variation on the way things are done (say, you're not allowed to have your own 125-foot guard tower with six 50-cal machine guns on it...in a residential neighborhood), you start freaking. Slippery slope! They want all our guns! It's just the first step!

No, we cannot have 12-year-olds letting their parents knowing that they're having abortions! It's just the first step! Slippery slope! They want all women's right to choose!

The issues couldn't be more different, but the dynamics, and levels of illogical hysteria, often reach parity.


97 posted on 05/28/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
If you get to know him, you'll realize that's his style.

What, talking out of both sides of his mouth?

98 posted on 05/28/2005 5:03:37 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: craig_eddy
He attended UVa! (sigh!) As a fellow Hokie let me tell you it could be always be worse. The problem is I just can't think how at the moment.
99 posted on 05/28/2005 5:09:07 PM PDT by chickenlips
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To: paul51

No.


100 posted on 05/28/2005 5:09:07 PM PDT by John Robertson (I love you, man! But not in the homo way.)
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