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European Union Rebuffs Pope in Signing of Constitution The Re-Building of the Roman Empire
Religion News ^ | Oct 29th, 2004 | Peggy Polk

Posted on 10/29/2004 2:38:26 PM PDT by missyme

VATICAN CITY -- When European Union leaders gather in Rome to sign their new constitution, they will be rebuffing Pope John Paul II and his effort to acknowledge Christianity in the historic document.

The Roman Catholic pontiff has often voiced concern about Europe's increasingly secular society, and with Friday's signing of a constitution that does not acknowledge Europe's religious history, the Vatican sees proof that the EU is distancing itself from Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular.

The drafters of the constitution have made it clear for months that they would ignore the pope's tireless 21/2-year campaign for explicit Christian recognition in the constitution's preamble. Earlier this week came a second blow. Opposition within the European Parliament blocked confirmation of an Italian candidate for commissioner of justice and security who was criticized for his conservative views on homosexuality and marriage, which mirror church doctrine.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: eu; euconstitution; europeanchristians; johnpaulii; kramer; prophecy; romanempire
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To: missyme
How about this declaration from article III-121?

"... the Union and the Member States shall, since animals are sentient beings, pay full regard to the requirements of animal welfare ..."

When they are done ignoring the religious history of Europe they come up with this gem! Animals are sentient! God save them!

21 posted on 10/29/2004 3:33:00 PM PDT by mwilli20 (Communists and Terrorists for Kerry!)
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To: missyme; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


22 posted on 10/29/2004 3:37:22 PM PDT by NYer ("The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of Bishops." St. John Chrysostom)
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To: missyme


come to pass at a very specific time- namely, the time of the end (Ezekiel 38:8):



According to the bible codes 2006.


23 posted on 10/29/2004 3:43:40 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: NYer; missyme; american colleen; Maeve; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...

They signed this abomination in a building topped with a statue of the Roman goddess Minerva and then they all appeared for a photo op underneath Minerva's watchful gaze...


24 posted on 10/29/2004 3:47:05 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray without ceasing.)
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To: TalBlack
"According to the bible codes 2006"

But my bible codes clearly state this will all come to pass at 12:35 p.m. GMT on July 24, 2008.

Also, the EU will not be the 10-headed beast. That will be the ten nations consumed by a reemergent China.

The EU will be the Whore of Babylon as they will be used by their Chinese oppressors for mere entertainment, i.e. Berlin night clubs, Dutch Marijuana bars, Swedish Bikini Team, etc.

25 posted on 10/29/2004 5:01:12 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

How did you come up with that date? July 24th, 2008 you are saying this is a Bible Code for what?


26 posted on 10/29/2004 5:25:43 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
This isn't a bible code for something, it is the bible codes that have led me to this date and the events that will occur thereupon.

I thought the 2006 in your comment referred to the year 2006. Either your code is incorrect or you have misread them, because we have untiil 2008 for the final show to begin, and the EU will be a mere sideshow!

27 posted on 10/29/2004 5:44:34 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: TalBlack
According to the bible codes 2006.

There's a Moby Dick code.

28 posted on 10/29/2004 5:47:56 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

What about Bill Clinton possibly becoming Secretary-General of the UN?


29 posted on 10/29/2004 5:52:31 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (What does John Kerry hunt with? Spitballs???)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
"What about Bill Clinton possibly becoming Secretary-General of the UN?"

1. George Bush wins re-election

2. In a fit of rage, the U.N. kicks the U.S. out as a permanent member of the Security Council. We are replaced by India.

3. Clinton, a US citizen, is now qualified to be UN Secretary General. He wins in a landslide.

4. It is Clinton who will use the UN to help advance China's cause by focusing attention on the perceived inadequacies of the U.S. and Israel, and muting attacks on China's increasing militarism.

There is good news, though: The Cubs win the World Series in 2007.

30 posted on 10/29/2004 6:01:33 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: MegaSilver

"There's a Moby Dick code."

You have been mis-informed.


31 posted on 10/30/2004 4:52:21 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: TalBlack

What happened to "no man knows the day or the time except the Father, not even the Son"?

Y'all are guessing and basing your dates on your interpretation of the events in the news as paralleled by what you (or someone else) has decided the Bible says.

If you want to do some 'interpreting' what do you make of Isaiah Chapter 11 and following? Sounds like 'today' to me.

One reason I am a Catholic is because I know that the USofA is NOT the center of G*d's Universe. I got really tired of hearing how the Bible was all about the USofA and having people in the pulpit interpret Sacred Scripture to their own ends. (And pass that collection plate.)

It's not about "US" or the "USofA" -- it's about G*D.

As in: "In the FULLNESS of time, G*D . . .


32 posted on 10/30/2004 9:30:30 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (If the MSM took MSG would they use tender words?)
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To: TalBlack
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html
33 posted on 10/30/2004 10:26:48 AM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: HighlyOpinionated


"Y'all are guessing and basing your dates on your interpretation of the events in the news as paralleled by what you (or someone else) has decided the Bible says."

You don't seem to know the difference between 'Bible Codes' and The Bible. The bible codes say a lot of things.


34 posted on 10/30/2004 10:32:18 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: MegaSilver

http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/moby.html

I amend my remark. You are not mis-informed. You are wilfully ignorant


35 posted on 10/30/2004 10:34:08 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: GoldwaterBooster

Regarding this, "bureaucratic monster" comes to mind. It's a Euro UN with better restaurants and romantic architectural ruins. We've been playing around with bureaucratic "constitutionalism" without Christianity on this side of the Atlantic. But secular liberalism has been checked (only somewhat) by conservative politics and the religious faith of the American people.


36 posted on 10/30/2004 2:25:29 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: TalBlack
I amend my remark. You are not mis-informed. You are wilfully ignorant

Do elucidate.

37 posted on 10/30/2004 4:41:05 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver

The first thing the mathimaticians and others (cryptologists etc...)did was test the 'book within the book" by running the ilad, Moby Dick War and Peace etc.

Those books when used will not deviate from statistical probability. Moreover they will not be "three dimensional.

Let's say dad write voluminously to mom from his post in WW2 Europe. His love letters when collected and skip code tested wil probably surprise you when, say the date mom and dad met turns up. And then the names of his childeren and or other connections turn up. This is all within statistical probability

BUT Dad's love letters WILL NOT have the names of his childreren WITH their dates of birth connecting, the name of the disease that crippled one CONNECTING. The date of the incident CONNECTING. That childs wife's name CONNECTING. The date of his death CONNECTING. Dad's demise CONNECTING. The name of the guy who hit him crossing the street CONNECTING.

In short, the statistical probability of what is in "the book contained within the book" is is IMPOSSIBLE and NOT REPRODUCIBLE WITH ANY OTHER BOOK.

If you have not read the Bible Codes book by reporter Michael Drosnin (who DOES NOT believe in God...and who addresses the Moby Dick thing) I'll be happy to send you my copy. email me with your address.


38 posted on 10/30/2004 5:46:25 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: missyme

What happens to the UN ? Will the EU now get a single vote ?


39 posted on 11/07/2004 7:47:19 AM PST by RS (Just because they are out to get him doesn't mean he's not guilty)
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To: RS
If the EU isn't reduced down to a single vote, then at least the U.S. should start getting 50 votes!

It would only be fair.

40 posted on 11/08/2004 8:57:03 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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