Posted on 10/29/2004 10:52:29 AM PDT by wvromania
Navy chief on Swiftvets.com is saying they FOUND IT!!
Here's a link to past Secretaries of the Navy:
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/people/secnav/secnavs.html#1950
I just hope the Swiftvets aren't being played by
someone on this in order to discredit them at the last
minute. Like President Bush says, be sure about things.
November 3, 2004 (unless the election hasn't been decided by then).
That message board defaults to Greenwich Mean Time unless you register and set your preferences.
His post was actually at 12:39 Central Time
call senator warner office and ask him?? is that plausible?
Press won't report it at all!
PING!
Really ? Someone told me that you had to have signed up by 1998 in order not to be considered a newbie.
Oh, well, I signed up on Sept 11 of this year. Guess I'm a newbie.
Some of us consider anyone who signed up in the new century to be a "newbie."
Really ? Someone told me that you had to have signed up by 1998 in order not to be considered a newbie.
Oh, well, I signed up on Sept 11 of this year. Guess I'm a newbie.
I hope so.
I just tried to register at their message board.
I think I broke it :)
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Under Other Than Honorable Conditions. OTH Discharges are warranted when the reason for separation is based upon a pattern of behavior that constitutes a significant departure from the conduct expected of members of the Military Services, or when the reason for separation is based upon one or more acts or omissions that constitute a significant departure from the conduct expected of members of the Military Services. Examples of factors that may be considered include the use of force or violence to produce serious bodily injury or death, abuse of a special position of trust, disregard by a superior of customary superior-subordinate relationships, acts or omissions that endanger the security of the United States or the health and welfare of other members of the Military Services, and deliberate acts or omissions that seriously endanger the health and safety of other persons.
Persons awarded an OTH characterization of service: are not entitled to retain their uniforms or wear them home (although they may be furnished civilian clothing at a cost of not more than $50); must accept transportation in kind to their homes; are subject to recoupment of any reenlistment bonus they may have received; are not eligible for notice of discharge to employers (which may affect unemployment benefits); and, do not receive mileage fees from the place of discharge to their home of record.
It is generally believed that an OTH Discharge will render an individual ineligible for all VA Benefits. This is not necessarily so. The Department of Veterans Affairs will make its own determination with respect as to whether the OTH was based on conditions which would forfeit any or all VA benefits. Most veterans' benefits will be forfeited if that determination is adverse to the former service-member, such as when based on the following circumstances: (1) Desertion; (2) escape prior to trial by general court-martial; (3) conscientious objector who refuses to perform military duties, wear the uniform, or comply with lawful orders of competent military authorities; (4) willful or persistent misconduct; (5) offense(s) involving moral turpitude; (6) mutiny or spying; or (7) homosexual acts involving aggravating circumstances.
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa092500a.htm
Ah, a quote from "Apocalypse Now"....or did you also hear it delivered first-hand in 'Nam? If so, my hat's off to you!
HF
Really ? Someone told me that you had to have signed up by 1998 in order not to be considered a newbie.
Oh, well, I signed up on Sept 11 of this year. Guess I'm a newbie.
That is intersting, thanks for letting me know. Could he have been busted in rank first?
thanks, I saw that at swiftvets, but I don't really know what year to look at
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