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THEY FOUND THE PERSON WHO GAVE KERRY HIS OTHER THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE!! (Swiftboat Vets)
swiftvets.com ^

Posted on 10/29/2004 10:52:29 AM PDT by wvromania

Navy chief on Swiftvets.com is saying they FOUND IT!!


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To: knak

Here's a link to past Secretaries of the Navy:

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/people/secnav/secnavs.html#1950


161 posted on 10/29/2004 11:17:42 AM PDT by elli1 (The total viewers of MSNBC is less than half a county in Wyoming.)
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To: CedarDave

I just hope the Swiftvets aren't being played by
someone on this in order to discredit them at the last
minute. Like President Bush says, be sure about things.


162 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:08 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: somerville

November 3, 2004 (unless the election hasn't been decided by then).


163 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:13 AM PDT by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: codder too


That message board defaults to Greenwich Mean Time unless you register and set your preferences.

His post was actually at 12:39 Central Time


164 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:16 AM PDT by LSU Engineer
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To: All

call senator warner office and ask him?? is that plausible?


165 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:18 AM PDT by wvromania
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To: stinkerpot65
the former secretary of the Navy would be W. Graham Claytor I believe Claytor is deceased.
166 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:24 AM PDT by elizabetty
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To: wvromania; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
Fingers crossed PING...
168 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:51 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Shermy

Press won't report it at all!


169 posted on 10/29/2004 11:18:51 AM PDT by Coachm
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To: Lil'freeper

PING!


170 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:13 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought."-Pope JPII)
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To: r9etb

Really ? Someone told me that you had to have signed up by 1998 in order not to be considered a newbie.

Oh, well, I signed up on Sept 11 of this year. Guess I'm a newbie.


172 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:25 AM PDT by somerville
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To: r9etb

Some of us consider anyone who signed up in the new century to be a "newbie."


173 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:39 AM PDT by GRANGER (Must-issue states have safer streets.)
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To: r9etb

Really ? Someone told me that you had to have signed up by 1998 in order not to be considered a newbie.

Oh, well, I signed up on Sept 11 of this year. Guess I'm a newbie.


174 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:39 AM PDT by somerville
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To: TruBluKentuckian

I hope so.

I just tried to register at their message board.

I think I broke it :)

Failed sending email :: PHP ::

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Line : 234
File : /home/swift2/public_html/phpBB2/includes/emailer.php


175 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:44 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: brewcrew

Under Other Than Honorable Conditions. OTH Discharges are warranted when the reason for separation is based upon a pattern of behavior that constitutes a significant departure from the conduct expected of members of the Military Services, or when the reason for separation is based upon one or more acts or omissions that constitute a significant departure from the conduct expected of members of the Military Services. Examples of factors that may be considered include the use of force or violence to produce serious bodily injury or death, abuse of a special position of trust, disregard by a superior of customary superior-subordinate relationships, acts or omissions that endanger the security of the United States or the health and welfare of other members of the Military Services, and deliberate acts or omissions that seriously endanger the health and safety of other persons.

Persons awarded an OTH characterization of service: are not entitled to retain their uniforms or wear them home (although they may be furnished civilian clothing at a cost of not more than $50); must accept transportation in kind to their homes; are subject to recoupment of any reenlistment bonus they may have received; are not eligible for notice of discharge to employers (which may affect unemployment benefits); and, do not receive mileage fees from the place of discharge to their home of record.

It is generally believed that an OTH Discharge will render an individual ineligible for all VA Benefits. This is not necessarily so. The Department of Veterans Affairs will make its own determination with respect as to whether the OTH was based on conditions which would forfeit any or all VA benefits. Most veterans' benefits will be forfeited if that determination is adverse to the former service-member, such as when based on the following circumstances: (1) Desertion; (2) escape prior to trial by general court-martial; (3) conscientious objector who refuses to perform military duties, wear the uniform, or comply with lawful orders of competent military authorities; (4) willful or persistent misconduct; (5) offense(s) involving moral turpitude; (6) mutiny or spying; or (7) homosexual acts involving aggravating circumstances.


http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa092500a.htm


176 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:44 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: RichInOC
"Oh, sailah boy...me so horny! Me love you long time!"

Ah, a quote from "Apocalypse Now"....or did you also hear it delivered first-hand in 'Nam?   If so, my hat's off to you!

HF

177 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:44 AM PDT by holden
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To: r9etb

Really ? Someone told me that you had to have signed up by 1998 in order not to be considered a newbie.

Oh, well, I signed up on Sept 11 of this year. Guess I'm a newbie.


178 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:44 AM PDT by somerville
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To: Nakatu X
I've heard 5 for enlisted, 2 for officers

That is intersting, thanks for letting me know. Could he have been busted in rank first?

179 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:50 AM PDT by elizabetty
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To: elli1

thanks, I saw that at swiftvets, but I don't really know what year to look at


180 posted on 10/29/2004 11:19:59 AM PDT by knak
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