Posted on 10/28/2004 7:17:23 PM PDT by wagglebee
A nationwide scientific poll conducted by the polling firm Wirthlin Worldwide shows that a significant majority of Americans believe that abortion is "almost always bad" for women -- even when they know a woman who has had an abortion.
The poll of 1001 respondents, conducted for Americans United for Life, a public interest bioethics law firm, asked three questions:
1) Just generally, do you believe that abortion is almost always a good thing for a woman or almost always a bad thing for a woman?
Base -- 1001 respondents
Almost always a good thing -- 230 (or 23 percent)
Almost always a bad thing -- 609 (or 61 percent)
Don't know/refused -- 162 (or 16 percent)
2) Do you personally know someone who has had an abortion?
Base - 1001 respondents
Yes -- 640 (or 64 percent)
No -- 335 (or 33 percent)
Don't know/refused -- 27 (or 3 percent)
3) From your observation, was that generally a positive or negative experience?
Base - 640 respondents (those who responded "Yes" to question 2)
Positive experience -- 256 (or 40 percent)
Negative experience -- 352 (or 55 percent)
Don't know/refused -- 31 (or 5 percent)
"This poll shows that Americans are increasingly aware that legalized abortion harms women," said Dorinda Bordlee, Esq., senior legislative counsel for Americans United for Life.
"Over thirty years of abortion has wreaked havoc on women's physical and psychological heath, and has served to facilitate the sexual exploitation of women. This poll shows that Americans are facing the reality that the violence of abortion leads to disaster for women, our children, and our culture. Abortion has not turned out to be the great liberator we were told it would be."
They kill horses?
That's changing too. The new term used by NARAL and the rest of the pro-abortion crowd is "anti-choice" George Orwell, where are you when we need you?
/sarcasm on
How can any be "anti-choice" right--that's like being a communist
/sarcasm off
I don't know if abortion is worse than slavery or the holocaust. All I know is that all of these are tremendous evils and that abortion is still happening daily in this country that slavery and the holocaust both took wars to end. And I think that the left has become the new south--I fully expect to hear serious talk of California trying to leave the Union after Bush's victory on Nov 2d.
Thank you John Kerry.
Now, imagine someone telling you this:
Tearing YOUR flesh to a thousand pieces as you scream in agony is morally wrong. But some people justify doing it, and you have no right to forbid them. Their morality must comes from their faith and their hearts, and not yours.
Anyone who would say something like that probably needs to be medicated, right?
I am a member of a Southern Baptist church. About as evangelical (and politically incorrect) as you can get, I'd say. Yes, we teach all 10 of the comandmnents. But we also teach about the sin of allowing evil to occur under the guise of "do your own thing and I'll do mine".
BTW, "Judge not, lest ye be judged" does NOT refer to judging a person's ACTIONS, but instead to a person's salvation. I don't have to judge which actions are right and wrong, God has already decided those. Abortion is WRONG. It is the MURDER of an innocent human being completely incapable of defending themselves.
That's just stupid. Who says you "have no right to forbid them"? You? Is the moral judgement that you "have no right to forbid them" as vacuous and meaningless as your judgement that abortion is morally wrong, but you can't do anything about it?
Here, try this on. I believe abortion is morally wrong. I believe have the right to do everything morally possible to stop it, and you have no right to forbid me, because my morality comes from my faith and my heart, not yours.
(Actually, I believe that my morality comes from God. Yours appears to come from Ayn Rand, or maybe Hugh Hefner.)
In Fanatic Saudi Arabia, during Ramadan, the religious police beat up the citizens if they were found eating. Now most of us think of such action as reprehensible? You happened to think otherwise, at least according to your response? I still maintain that my morality will guide me to do the right thing, and not force my morality on you is civilized way of coexistence.
OK, when did you last see a bunch of Southern Baptist out protesting in the street against envy, stealing, and disrespecting of parents? To save you time, the answer is NEVER! I rest my case.
LOL!
"OK, when did you last see a bunch of Southern Baptist out protesting in the street against envy, stealing, and disrespecting of parents?"
Abortion is murdering a baby in the womb. Everyone should be protesting in the streets.
Envy, stealing, and disrespecting parents are wrong, but not quite in the class of murder. No comparison.
So you are trying to prove by example of a bad law that all laws are bad?
Maybe you were incapable of detecting the point to what I wrote: Abortion kills someone else. Therefore, it is an issue of PUBLIC morality, and can be dealt with . You can go masturbate all you want, and that's no-one's business. You kill a baby, and that's everyone's business.
Christian morality holds that it is immoral to rape people. Should we legalize rape because government should not legislate morality? Some feminists claim that mothers should have the right to kill their babies because they haven't come into the world yet for anyone to love. Does that mean I can kill a homeless druggie I come across?
The law in Saudi Arabia would be unconstitutional in America because it forces someone else to live according to the practices of a religion they do not subscribe to; religion is the primary state interest involved. Religion is not the primary state interest involved in abortion; protection of the right to life of the unborn is.
You may hold that it is your religion (or lack thereof) that informs you that black people do not have souls. (This was an argument made for the morality of slavery.) That your religion differs with the state's objectives does not mean that you have the freedom to kill, mistreat, enslave, or in any other way deny the civil rights of black people.
Likewise, you may not believe that unborn babies have souls. I, as a voter, believe they do, and it is the legal history of the United States that they do at least after the first trimester. Therefore, I am correct to protect unborn babies from your false beliefs and the actions you take because of those beliefs.
If you burn a building, and there are people in that building who die, they will convict you for murder.
Your entire case is that all sins are not treated equally so you can turn a blind eye to MURDER? THAT is your case?
I agree.
Then god's commendements are in different degrees?
Who receives the longer prison sentence: a petty thief or a murderer?
And why?
Express your excellent points to "the lurkers" in general and you may possibly change one heart or more.
All sin is bad enough to keep us from God. And if you lie to yourself or others about being in sin then you are a liar, and there are no liars in heaven.
Meanwhile we're talking about he filth that advocate aborting helpless unborn people.
You are curiously silent on this matter.
I stated many times that I would not have an abortion, or recommend an abortion to a friend or relative. I would not even respect any person who chose an abortion as a solution to her pregnancy. HOWEVER, I still protect women rights to make decisions for themselves. Guys, priests, mullahs, all never get pregnant and should not be the final sayers.
Don't worry, I have long learnd not to try to move the immovable object. (At least, I don't try for too long.)
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