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UN INspectors Found Nothing At Al-Qaqaa ON March 8, 2003

Posted on 10/26/2004 12:31:01 PM PDT by Prince Charles

Copyright 2003 Valley Daily Bulletin
  Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (Ontario, CA)
April 4, 2003 Friday
LENGTH: 813 words

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Troops encounter unknown chemical items

As the military advances closer to Baghdad, signs of Iraqichemical preparedness are multiplying, although there is still no conclusive evidence Saddam Hussein's regime possesses weapons of mass destruction.

On Friday, troops at a training facility in the westernIraqi desert came across a bottle labeled "tabun" a nerve gas and chemical weapon Iraq is banned from possessing.

Closer to Baghdad, troops at Iraq's largest militaryindustrial complex found nerve agent antidotes, documents describing chemical warfare and a white powder that appeared to be used for explosives.

U.N. weapons inspectors went repeatedly to the vast al QaQaa complex most recently on March 8 but found nothing during spot visits to some of the 1,100 buildings at the site 25 miles south of Baghdad.

Col. John Peabody, engineer brigade commander of the 3rdInfantry Division, said troops found thousands of 2-by-5-inch boxes, each containing three vials of white powder, together with documents written in Arabic that dealt with how to engage in chemical warfare.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaqaa; dirtytricks; iaea; iaeagate; iraq; kerrylies; mediabias; napalminthemorning; nytrogate; qaqaagate; rats; un; wot
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To: tubebender
I just heard VP Cheney blast Kerry over this story. That the weapons were NOT there when Our troops arrived and he talked about the 400,000 tons that they did find and are destroying. And the best part of this was, I am listening to CBS Radio...

Great news, was this in a radio interview or was he speaking at a rally somewhere?

141 posted on 10/26/2004 3:38:23 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Prince Charles

Someone should tell this to NBC. They just shot down their report from last night on tonight's NBC Nightly News. Evidently Rick Kaplan runs the show over there, too.


142 posted on 10/26/2004 3:39:41 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: TexKat

Possible, but not probable. Thats a lot of stuff to hide, and would require a large area to hide it in.

We prolly have already run across this stuff without the UN seals attached and didn't know it. And likely have already made it go boom in a big way. The engineers have been getting lots of practice in munitions destruction.


143 posted on 10/26/2004 3:39:47 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: concan
The side of the truth. And claiming that this article somehow establishes that the stuff was gone before March bears no relationship to the truth, whether the UN is telling the truth or not.

If you doubt the story because you don't believe the UN, just say so. But your arguments have been to try to cram the reported facts into your construct, and it doesn't work with the reported facts. If you want to cherry pick those, you can make anything "true."

144 posted on 10/26/2004 3:43:43 PM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: EBH; cyncooper
REPORT ON THE FOURTEENTH IAEA ON-SITE INSPECTION IN IRAQ UNDER SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 687 (1991)

31 August - 7 September 1992

7. The Al Qa Qaa site has been visited many times by IAEA teams investigating links to the nuclear program. In preparation of the long-term monitoring plan at Al Qa Qaa the team visited machine shops, testing areas, and high-explosives synthesis facilities. No nuclear-related activities were observed. The Iraqi capability to produce RDX was destroyed in the war. The relevant building has been rebuilt but the equipment has not been replaced because of the embargo. Only ordinary machine tools were found in the machine shops. Activities in the high explosive test area were found to be ordinary munitions tests.

145 posted on 10/26/2004 3:46:38 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: concan
If it took 38 to 40 trucks to move the stuff, our surveillance wouldn't necessarily pick that up.

It could have been moved by tractor-trailer trucks. In that case they would only have needed 10 trucks to do so. The 38-40 "truck" figure is if they used little ten-ton panel trucks...they are the everyday delivery trucks you see everywhere.

146 posted on 10/26/2004 3:47:08 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Cold Heat

147 posted on 10/26/2004 3:50:43 PM PDT by watchout
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To: Red Badger

seems like you are connecting too many dots
(humor)


148 posted on 10/26/2004 3:50:54 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Prince Charles

Paging Brit Hume and the FNC crew...


149 posted on 10/26/2004 3:51:21 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: TexKat

So, there was no RDX. Media fabrications!

Now that leaves 196 tonnes that "went missing." How many tractor trailer trucks is that for Saddam? So, we're down to 5 trucks. Yes, that could have been easily done.


150 posted on 10/26/2004 3:52:58 PM PDT by EBH (DUMB<DUMB<DUMB!)
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To: EBH

I'm searching EBH. That report was from 1992 I believe. By the way how much is 384 kilogram?


151 posted on 10/26/2004 4:04:59 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Prince Charles

I like the term QAQAA-GATE since thats exactly what it was...

Qa-Qaa, flung at Dubya on election-week, hoping it would stick!

Voters should serve up some QaQaa-on-a-shingle to to Kerry on election day!


152 posted on 10/26/2004 4:18:13 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: TexKat

It's appx. 847 lbs.


153 posted on 10/26/2004 4:21:16 PM PDT by EBH (DUMB<DUMB<DUMB!)
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To: EBH
Tracking Inspections:

15 January 2003

A team of three International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors visited the Al-Mahawheel Storages belonging to Al-Qa'qa State Company to check RDX explosive materials.

A second group of two IAEA inspectors went to the Mechanical Industrial Company in Al-Iskandariyah (a.k.a. Al-Iskandariyah State Enterprise for Mechanical Industries) to inventory aluminum tubes. Inspectors also inventoried Al-Mu'taz Center (a.k.a. Al-Mu'taz Technical Institute) and the Al-Qa'qa State Company for the same reason. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) stated that Al-Mu'taz specializes in mechanical engineering. Both sites are about 70 kilometers south of Baghdad.

A team of two IAEA inspectors went to the Hitten State Company to weigh and check RDX and HMX explosives. UNMOVIC calls the company an "ammunitions and armaments organization." Hittin is approximately 80 kilometers southeast of Baghdad, according to UNMOVIC.

A joint team of 17 inspectors apparently led their Iraqi counterparts on a wild goose chase through the streets of Baghdad, finally arriving at the government office buildings adjacent to the Republican Guard Presidential Compound. Inspectors checked government office buildings and requested that a safe be opened, but did not enter the presidential compound itself.

A team of 15 biological inspectors went to a private farm in Al-Durah, which is owned by a civilian. According to the Foreign Ministry statement, it has "four livestock fields, and two houses and [storage facilities]." Inspectors visited the declared storage sites and livestock buildings.

A team of nine inspectors went to the Al-Anbar University, in Al-Ramadi, approximately 150 kilometers west of Baghdad, according to UNMOVIC, where they visited the Colleges of Science, Education, the Girls College of Education, and the College of Medicine. Inspectors asked about the number of students who received a Ph.D. from the Biology Department.

A team of three chemical inspectors visited the Al-Nasr Al-Adheem State Company and the Al-Saad State Company to follow-up on the use of platelets and "ankednil" material, which is used to construct small filters, according to the Foreign Ministry. UNMOVIC noted that Al-Saad is a design center for refineries, while Al-Nasr Al-Adheem is a heavy-equipment manufacturer located approximately 16 kilometers west of Baghdad. Inspectors also went to the Khan Dari Stores, a storage facility located 60 kilometers northwest of Baghdad, according to UNMOVIC.

A team of 13 missile inspectors went to he Al-Amin Factory belonging to the Al-Rashid State Company -- owned by Iraq's Military Industrial Organization (MIO) -- in Amiriyat Al-Falluja, where they asked about factory production capacity. Inspectors then proceeded to the Engineering College in Baghdad to check a machine there. UNMOVIC insists this site is 130 kilometers south of Baghdad while the Foreign Ministry says it is 70 kilometers west of Baghdad. UNMOVIC also stated that the factory "was involved in the BADR 200 solid propellant missile project before 1991, and has since been responsible for the fabrication of motor cases and nozzles for Iraq's other solid propellant missiles." Inspectors verified information previously obtained by interviewing staff members. UNMOVIC added that "One sub-team visited the Al-Rashid SC Headquarters, about [a] 30-minute drive from Al-Amin, while the other sub-team drove to the Al-Za'faraniyah Military College of Engineering, near the Al-Rashid Air Base."

A joint UNMOVIC inspection team of 13 flew from the Al-Rashid Airport to "military sites and armory storages in the north of Takrit Province," according to the ministry, to check equipment and conduct a general inspection. UNMOVIC stated inspectors checked the Takrit Munitions Depot.

Copyright (c) 2003. RFE/RL, Inc. Reprinted with the permission of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, 1201 Connecticut Ave., N.W. Washington DC 20036. www.rferl.org

154 posted on 10/26/2004 4:33:35 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat; All
Click here for a backrounder on Al Qa-Qaa.
155 posted on 10/26/2004 4:42:22 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: EBH
It's appx. 847 lbs.

This is the reason I asked:

Update on Saudi Arabia’s progress in the War on Terrorism

On November 26, 2003, a suspected terrorist was arrested. The suspect’s hiding place was linked to the terrorist cell involved in the November 9 car bombing at the Al-Muhaya residential complex in Riyadh. Search of the hiding place revealed large quantities of arms and documents. Items discovered by security forces include one SAM-7 surface-to-air missile, five rocket-propelled grenade launchers, 384 kilogram of the powerful explosive RDX, 89 detonators, 20 hand grenades, eight AK-47 assault rifles, 41 AK-47 magazines, and 16,800 rounds of ammunition. Also recovered were four wireless communication devices, three computers, computer disks and CDs, and SR 94,395 in cash, as well as numerous identity cards and leaflets calling for the perpetration of acts of terror.

156 posted on 10/26/2004 4:42:55 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: mewzilla

I bet certain members of UNMOVIC know where that stuff went...


157 posted on 10/26/2004 4:45:18 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: lugsoul

Well Troll here it is.

Col. John Peabody, engineer brigade commander of the 3rd Infantry Division filed one of many very extensive reports on everything we found at alQaQa. The 3rd ID and the 101st were the first units to arrive, the 3rd ID secured and inspected the site and brought in their Engineering Brigade to document, test and destroy, as needed. The 101st moved on to other objectives.

The site had been swept clean of any hazardous materials before the end of summer 2003 by the U.S. military and then promptly abandoned. Such as the 'reported' condition over a year later.

There are at least 100 stories from March 2003 to September 2003 that can be brought up on Google or Lexus-Nexus that in part or in whole refute what the Times and AP say now. It truly is a perponderance of the evidence that makes the Times story blatantly false.

What is so laughable is that many of those reports from 2003 were filed by the Time's and AP's own reporters! They're calling their own reporters liars?

The Times story is a red herring and Kamp Kerry fell for it.

A fictitious 'source' at the Pentagon that the Times claims is no match for actual film footage and live bodies, with testimonials and official reports, that did indeed secure and inspect the facility.

Game, Set, Match


158 posted on 10/26/2004 5:02:07 PM PDT by 7mmMag@LeftCoast ("....to defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Red Badger

159 posted on 10/26/2004 5:19:59 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter (Kerry plans to graft post-Vietnam policy on Iraq: Kill Allawi and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: mewzilla

I am searching where RDX has been used since that time. So far some was found in Riyadh with an Al Queda member,Abu Mohammed Al Ablaj taken credit for the saudi attack among others.


160 posted on 10/26/2004 5:54:24 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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