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Socialism is evil
Town Hall ^ | July 28, 2004 | Walter E. Williams

Posted on 10/21/2004 7:38:23 PM PDT by vannrox

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Socialism is evil
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July 28, 2004

 What is socialism? We miss the boat if we say it's the agenda of left-wingers and Democrats. According to Marxist doctrine, socialism is a stage of society between capitalism and communism where private ownership and control over property are eliminated. The essence of socialism is the attenuation and ultimate abolition of private property rights. Attacks on private property include, but are not limited to, confiscating the rightful property of one person and giving it to another to whom it doesn't belong. When this is done privately, we call it theft. When it's done collectively, we use euphemisms: income transfers or redistribution. It's not just left-wingers and Democrats who call for and admire socialism but right-wingers and Republicans as well.

 Republicans and right-wingers support taking the earnings of one American and giving them to farmers, banks, airlines and other failing businesses. Democrats and left-wingers support taking the earnings of one American and giving them to poor people, cities and artists. Both agree on taking one American's earnings to give to another; they simply differ on the recipients. This kind of congressional activity constitutes at least two-thirds of the federal budget.

 Regardless of the purpose, such behavior is immoral. It's a reduced form of slavery. After all, what is the essence of slavery? It's the forceful use of one person to serve the purposes of another person. When Congress, through the tax code, takes the earnings of one person and turns around to give it to another person in the forms of prescription drugs, Social Security, food stamps, farm subsidies or airline bailouts, it is forcibly using one person to serve the purposes of another.

 The moral question stands out in starker relief when we acknowledge that those spending programs coming out of Congress do not represent lawmakers reaching into their own pockets and sending out the money. Moreover, there's no tooth fairy or Santa Claus giving them the money. The fact that government has no resources of its very own forces us to acknowledge that the only way government can give one American a dollar is to first -- through intimidation, threats and coercion -- take that dollar from some other American.

 Some might rejoin that all of this is a result of a democratic process and it's legal. Legality alone is no guide for a moral people. There are many things in this world that have been, or are, legal but clearly immoral. Slavery was legal. Did that make it moral? South Africa's apartheid, Nazi persecution of Jews, and Stalinist and Maoist purges were all legal, but did that make them moral?

 Can a moral case be made for taking the rightful property of one American and giving it to another to whom it does not belong? I think not. That's why socialism is evil. It uses evil means (coercion) to achieve what are seen as good ends (helping people). We might also note that an act that is inherently evil does not become moral simply because there's a majority consensus.

 An argument against legalized theft should not be construed as an argument against helping one's fellow man in need. Charity is a noble instinct; theft, legal or illegal, is despicable. Or, put another way: Reaching into one's own pocket to assist his fellow man is noble and worthy of praise. Reaching into another person's pocket to assist one's fellow man is despicable and worthy of condemnation.

 For the Christians among us, socialism and the welfare state must be seen as sinful. When God gave Moses the commandment "Thou shalt not steal," I'm sure He didn't mean thou shalt not steal unless there's a majority vote. And I'm sure that if you asked God if it's OK just being a recipient of stolen property, He would deem that a sin as well.

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To: vannrox
The Constitution is a Capitalist Document. Those who oppose that are enemies of the Constitution. Can Americans be unAmerican, you bet! The oath of office demands that the one taking the oath defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC!
21 posted on 10/21/2004 8:09:58 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Fundamentalist Liberals, Fundamentalist Muslims, the only difference is the clothes)
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To: vannrox

The libertarian Williams contradicts the constitutionalist Williams: An immoral action by an individual doesn't become moral when committed by a democracy, or a constitutional republic.


22 posted on 10/21/2004 8:10:52 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: Socratic
A socialist is merely a polite communist.

A socialist is a communist who doesn't quite yet grasp the truth that for his philosphy to prevail requires the enslavement and murder of other human beings. Upon coming to this realization, a socialist happily becomes a communist.

23 posted on 10/21/2004 8:14:12 PM PDT by feedback doctor (Fundamentalist Liberals, Fundamentalist Muslims, the only difference is the clothes)
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To: Socratic

A socialist is merely a polite communist.



They both have a gun at your head. A socialist hasn't yet come to grips with pulling the trigger because he hopes he won't have to. But if he needs to, he can find a Communist who is willing.


24 posted on 10/21/2004 8:16:30 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: feedback doctor

Socialism is Communism without guns.


25 posted on 10/21/2004 8:16:48 PM PDT by JesseJane (~On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.~)
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To: vannrox

Most disturbing is Kerry's position on Communism. Communism is the greatest evil that man has ever known. It is responsible for more than 100 millions deaths (more than all the wars in history combined), millions and millions of refugees and the subjugation and slavery of over 2 billion people since WWII. Communist regimes always follow a similar pattern. A Communist regime has never been elected, so first Communists must orchestrate a revolution, often with the support of funding from preexisting Communist regime. Next, Communists dissolve private property, nationalize media and begin a brutal purge of political prisoners and the upper classes. To conduct it's class warfare and maintain control of the revolting people, the state will militarize, establish a large secret police presence, and create horrific labor/reeducation camps. The economy collapses, failed farm policies result in starvation, refugees flee, and the government begins to export Communist revolution abroad. How far the government is willing to push the Communist philosophy will directly equate with the severity of these events and the suffering of their people. This exact pattern has come to pass in the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, North Korea, Angola, Eastern Europe, Yugoslavia, Nicaragua, El Salvador and Cuba. A few countries on this list have not experienced the true hell of Communism because the governments either didn't last long enough to take full root, or total Communist policies were not pursued in earnest.

From 'John Kerry's Foreign Policy'
http://www.neoperspectives.com/johnkerry.htm


26 posted on 10/21/2004 8:16:50 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/johnkerry.htm)
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To: vannrox
Hilter Was A Socialist
27 posted on 10/21/2004 8:17:40 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: vannrox
[ When the democratic process reigns in matters of constitutionally enumerated federal government matters, we have the liberty that the Framers envisioned -- anywhere else it most likely means tyranny. ]

Walt pretty much hammered socialism good, but he seems to have lost it a bit when morphing to democracy.. Democracy sucks every time in every place in every way, always.. Democracy "IS" mob rule. The biggest mob or consortium mobs wins absolutely.. OK for primitive gov'ts like in URP or the middle east even.. But only a republic like ours, which is unique for any republic where the States are soverign and the fed. gov't is merely a client is unique.. Sad to say the U.S. has been morphed into a democracy by democrats and republicans never even saw it coming.. Mob rule is what we have, not the republic we started out with.. The only way the republic can redeemed AT ALL is by civil war.. The democrats and some republicans will fight it tooth and nail thinking they are patriotic.. The time is almost pasted for that civil war too.. If it does not happen all the whining here in this forum about will result in just that...

FOOTNOTES:
Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism.- Karl Marx

We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.~Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

28 posted on 10/21/2004 8:36:31 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: vannrox; Psycho_Bunny; traviskicks; socialismisinsidious; Juana la Loca; ladyinred

What do you call President Bush's programs to help the illegal aliens?


29 posted on 10/21/2004 8:49:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch (´´Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; They are our teeth for Liberty)
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To: vannrox

Walter is great... bump.


30 posted on 10/21/2004 8:52:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Free speech! It's not just for Democrats anymore!)
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To: vannrox

bttt


31 posted on 10/21/2004 11:59:15 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: mlocher
"remember too, that as a christian, we are to help our fellow human. big government robs us of the joy of helping someone -- we default to the gov't. in a sense, big gov't, by implementing too many social welfare programs, gets in the way of individuals doing god's work, and gets in the way of our relationship with god. "

And I have been saying this ever since I became aware of it 15 years ago, after accepting Jesus, and began to learn and understand the true role for his "Church" in our world.
It is not by accident that the Government has assumed the role as provider of needs to the masses, Nor is it accidental that the politicians assume the role of "Saviour" at election time.
Is it any wonder why so many Europeans and Americans have left the church in the last 30 or so years? The Church's role has been assumed by the almighty Government Program that is fueled by its ability to legislate income from the producers, in order to give to the non producers.
This is seen by many secularist as the perfect replacement for the "opiate" so desperately needed by the few in order to more effectively steer the ignorant and unlearned in society.
32 posted on 10/22/2004 9:33:14 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (Being a Democrat requires nothing more than the ability to point, accuse, and whine loudly.)
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To: Hillarys nightmare

i could not agree with you more.


33 posted on 10/22/2004 9:46:35 PM PDT by mlocher
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Bump


34 posted on 10/25/2004 8:04:57 PM PDT by listenhillary (We are defending the peace by taking the fight to the enemy.GWB)
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To: vannrox

bump!


35 posted on 10/25/2004 8:14:41 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: vannrox

check back and read later.


36 posted on 10/25/2004 8:17:15 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: traviskicks

It's certainly a fact that Kerry has had an early history of flirting with commies.

But is there other evidence that he himself is a commie or socialist?


37 posted on 10/27/2004 8:20:45 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree

He is not a communist. Whether he is a socialist depends on you definition of a socialist. The line between liberalism and socialism is not always entirely clear. He has advocated socialistic policies, but during this campaign he has taken more 'moderate' approaches. If elected I believe Kerry will take the country closer to socialism, but not all the way. (I actually would argue that a large part of our country is socialistic now, example: our education system). Republicans are not withut faults either, this medicaid bill that Bush passed was socialistic.

hope taht answers your question. did you read my whole article? did it seem like I was implying that he was a communist? (he may have been when he was younger, I don't know)


38 posted on 10/27/2004 8:33:54 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/johnkerry.htm)
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To: GeronL

"Socialism is murder"

Yep, that just about covers it!


39 posted on 10/27/2004 9:01:25 AM PDT by 50 Cal (A Lawyer is nothing but a Politician in Larval Form!)
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To: traviskicks

Yes, I read the article, it is a nice resource, actually. I think I'll bookmark it.

I happen to agree with your assessment of Kerry, the Republicans and the state of socialism in the US.

It's hard to tell what principles Kerry has, if any. It would seem that they are leftist, but he is coy. The history that you've assembled gives an indication at least.
My definition of socialism is pretty standard, I think: a democratic political system in which everyone works for the common good of the community, this goal being achieved through an egalitarianism which not only seeks equality among men, but seeks common ownership of the means of production, in other words, collectivism. The fact that such a system is by definition totalitarian seems to escape most liberals, but, IMO, is appreciated by many politicians on the left, if not the right.

Many liberals that I talk to will tell me that their guiding principles are the same as mine, individual freedom!
But they always vote left, no matter what, "by the issues," as they say. The fact that liberals are tricked into voting, in the service of various causes, for giving arbitrary and increasing power to central government has led me to the recent conclusion that "liberals" actually do not have any political principles at all.

Of course here I am drawing a distinction between "liberals" and true socialists or leftists who do actually have political principles, the principles of socialism.


40 posted on 10/27/2004 2:25:55 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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