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Navy Stripped Kerry Of Security Clearance!!!!!! Unauthorized Contacts With Enemy Agents!
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Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26

Kerry Lost Security Clearance!

Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerry’s Navy security clearance.

Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.

Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.

Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.

Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the “Peace Talks.” While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.

These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.

Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didn’t want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.

However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerry’s security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, “Lieutenant Kerry wasn’t cleared to know what time it was!”

The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.

Today, he couldn’t get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!


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KEYWORDS: aidandcomfort; benedictarnold; gigolo; kerry; kerrybio; liar; liedtocongress; liedtomedia; lurch; napalminthemorning; northvietnamese; securityclearance; traitor; treason; unfitforcommand; usefulidiot; vietnam; vietnamwar; vkpac; wot
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Yes. You can tell I'm barely up to speed on this thread! :)


501 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:01 PM PDT by Tealc (Mail me if you want on or off my Jaffa, Kree! ping list)
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To: b4its2late

Why would Kerry need clearance? Have you forgotten about the Clinton Whitehouse?

Bush needs a knockout blow tonight!!!


502 posted on 10/13/2004 1:11:14 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Spirochete

is this why he has not been to Iraq?


503 posted on 10/13/2004 1:12:43 PM PDT by knitmom
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To: nuconvert

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/rqsthistserv.pdf

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/hondisres.pdf

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf


504 posted on 10/13/2004 1:12:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: MindBender26

"Almost a year later, in April 1091"

I knew Kerry was an old bastard, but sheesh!


505 posted on 10/13/2004 1:12:56 PM PDT by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: kabar

What accounts for the 6 yrs between '72 and 78? It was normal for someone not to receive their HD for all that time?


506 posted on 10/13/2004 1:17:35 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert
I sent you the links separately. If you look at the Navy's chronology of Kerry's service, his Honorable Discharge letter, and his automatic transfer into the Standby Reserves, you will see that Kerry went through the standard progression through the naval reserve system. On what basis are you coming to your conclusion that Carter intervened on Kerry's behalf to upgrade his discharge? How do you know his security clearance was withdrawn?

My point is that you must have some facts to make such allegations or come up with theories. On the other hand, I believe the SBVFT who contradict some of the official records, because they have firsthand knowledge and have filed affadavits to that effect.

507 posted on 10/13/2004 1:19:49 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I'm just trying to piece together the articles posted today. According to the links you sent, there's a 6 yr gap between his Ready Reserves and his HD. If that's normal, fine.


508 posted on 10/13/2004 1:23:19 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: nuconvert
What accounts for the 6 yrs between '72 and 78? It was normal for someone not to receive their HD for all that time?

Yes. I resigned my commission in 1972 and was transferred into the Standby Reserves the same year. I recieved my Honorable Discharge on Feb 16, 1978, the same date as Kerry who also was transferred into the Standby Reserves in 1972.

509 posted on 10/13/2004 1:23:29 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Okay. No problem.


510 posted on 10/13/2004 1:24:15 PM PDT by nuconvert (Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.)
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To: expatpat
How did he get on the Senate Intelligence Committee after losing a clearance?

Good point. Something's rotten in Denmark. If this guy was a Republican, his dirty laundry would have been run up the flagpole, the first time he ran for office.

Of course traitors tend to be Democrats, not Republicans.

511 posted on 10/13/2004 1:25:08 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: ruiner
I personally commend Senator Kerry for standing up against the US government and the atrocities it soldiers committed in Vietnam. His contacts with the North Vietnamese helped bring this illegal war to a speedy end.

How anyone living in the Western world in 2004 can openly advocate the enslavement of his fellow man is completely beyond me-- and yet, LEFTIST shills like you, who infest America, contiue to do so.
512 posted on 10/13/2004 1:25:25 PM PDT by pyx (Too busy ? If you get cheated by the LEFT on November 2, 2004, you only have yourself to blame.)
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To: kabar

"We should focus our efforts on Kerry's antiwar activities"

Also consider his present day words. He thanks the soldiers in one line, then mentions 1000 + lost lives, votes against money supporting Troops, and says Allawi is nothing more than a puppet. TRAITOR - no two ways about it.


513 posted on 10/13/2004 1:26:40 PM PDT by Gucho
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To: MindBender26

I will diligently watch the NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN news reports this evening to get complete and updated coverage on this important news item (hahahahahaahahahahahahah) Who am I kidding? The MSM will not touch this with a 10 foot pole!


514 posted on 10/13/2004 1:26:40 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: pyx
contiue=continue
515 posted on 10/13/2004 1:26:55 PM PDT by pyx (Too busy ? If you get cheated by the LEFT on November 2, 2004, you only have yourself to blame.)
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To: fritzz
He does kind of resemble Charles DeGaulle.

Heehee, he resembles a Shar Pei when he's between botox treatments ;-P

516 posted on 10/13/2004 1:27:18 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: ruiner
I FORGOT THE SARCASM TAG!!!!!

I WAS ONLY KIDDING!!!!!


My reply holds except, delete the "you" and insert a "they" along with my size 10 up their @$$.
517 posted on 10/13/2004 1:31:22 PM PDT by pyx (Too busy ? If you get cheated by the LEFT on November 2, 2004, you only have yourself to blame.)
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To: HenryLeeII
"Doesn't matter. A Top Secret clearance is a Top Secret clearance..."

Top-Secret 'clearances' are not limited to DOD.

There are other arenas of higher sensitivity. A TS in one arena does not equal a TS in another.

One person may have a TS for work on some "fancy weapons" program but that TS means nothing in the many other non-"fancy-weapons" arenas.

So my original thought was that what Kerry had in Vietnam cannot compare to what he has been briefed on present day.

518 posted on 10/13/2004 1:32:36 PM PDT by ez2muz
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To: TheSpottedOwl

:)LOL


519 posted on 10/13/2004 1:32:57 PM PDT by fritzz
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To: pyx

I'll really take it as a compliment that I understand the enemy so well that I can sound just like them!

Ok, actually it sucks and almost got me banned from FR.


520 posted on 10/13/2004 1:38:02 PM PDT by ruiner
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