Posted on 10/13/2004 9:48:00 AM PDT by MindBender26
Kerry Lost Security Clearance!
Just spoke with reporter friend in DC. She is talking with former USN ONI types who worked on DOD/USN investigation that resulted in total loss of Kerrys Navy security clearance.
Kerry had been granted a Top Secret by the Navy on October 11, 1967 based on a routine background investigation by Office of Naval Intelligence. A top secret clearance was required for his work at that time.
Obtaining and holding a security clearance of any level, especially TS or above, requires certain terms, obligations, commitments and conditions from the holder. One of the most important is the holder of the clearance must promptly and fully any contacts with any foreign officials, agents, etc.
Lieutenant Kerry left active duty with the Navy on January 3, 1970, but he still carried those obligations as a commissioned officer of the Naval Reserve. Without telling anyone and without receiving permission from superiors,FBI or counter-intelligence officers, he traveled to Paris in the summer of 1970. He claimed the purpose of his trip was a honeymoon with his first wife, Julia Thorne, but there was another hidden purpose.
Numerous North Vietnamese and Viet Cong intelligence agents and officials were in Paris, having arrived a year earlier for the Peace Talks. While in Paris, Kerry met with agents on a number of occasions and had extensive discussions with them about U.S. plans, procedures and how to get the U.S. to essentially surrender in Vietnam.
These clandestine meetings were never reported to the Navy.
Almost a year later, in April 1091, speaking as the leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against The War, Lieutenant Kerry told a Senate hearing about his meetings with enemy agents. Senior DOD officials wanted to prosecute him as a Naval Reserve officer for violating a number of laws and regulations, but this was vetoed by the Nixon White House. They didnt want to give the anti-war crowd any additional PR ammunition.
However, the Navy immediately pulled Kerrys security clearance. He became a Naval Reserve officer who was known not to be trusted. He kept his commission, but lost all access to any classified information. In the words of one of the now-retired agents, Lieutenant Kerry wasnt cleared to know what time it was!
The bottom line is, Kerry was on the Intelligence Committee of the Senate after the Paris fiasco and another trip to support the Moscow-backed Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
Today, he couldnt get a security clearance to pull KP duty, but he wants to be Commander in Chief of all our military in the War on Terrorism!
Yes. You can tell I'm barely up to speed on this thread! :)
Why would Kerry need clearance? Have you forgotten about the Clinton Whitehouse?
Bush needs a knockout blow tonight!!!
is this why he has not been to Iraq?
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/rqsthistserv.pdf
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/hondisres.pdf
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jkerry/trnsfr2stndyrsrv.pdf
"Almost a year later, in April 1091"
I knew Kerry was an old bastard, but sheesh!
What accounts for the 6 yrs between '72 and 78? It was normal for someone not to receive their HD for all that time?
My point is that you must have some facts to make such allegations or come up with theories. On the other hand, I believe the SBVFT who contradict some of the official records, because they have firsthand knowledge and have filed affadavits to that effect.
I'm just trying to piece together the articles posted today. According to the links you sent, there's a 6 yr gap between his Ready Reserves and his HD. If that's normal, fine.
Yes. I resigned my commission in 1972 and was transferred into the Standby Reserves the same year. I recieved my Honorable Discharge on Feb 16, 1978, the same date as Kerry who also was transferred into the Standby Reserves in 1972.
Okay. No problem.
Good point. Something's rotten in Denmark. If this guy was a Republican, his dirty laundry would have been run up the flagpole, the first time he ran for office.
Of course traitors tend to be Democrats, not Republicans.
"We should focus our efforts on Kerry's antiwar activities"
Also consider his present day words. He thanks the soldiers in one line, then mentions 1000 + lost lives, votes against money supporting Troops, and says Allawi is nothing more than a puppet. TRAITOR - no two ways about it.
I will diligently watch the NBC, ABC, CBS, and CNN news reports this evening to get complete and updated coverage on this important news item (hahahahahaahahahahahahah) Who am I kidding? The MSM will not touch this with a 10 foot pole!
Heehee, he resembles a Shar Pei when he's between botox treatments ;-P
Top-Secret 'clearances' are not limited to DOD.
There are other arenas of higher sensitivity. A TS in one arena does not equal a TS in another.
One person may have a TS for work on some "fancy weapons" program but that TS means nothing in the many other non-"fancy-weapons" arenas.
So my original thought was that what Kerry had in Vietnam cannot compare to what he has been briefed on present day.
:)LOL
I'll really take it as a compliment that I understand the enemy so well that I can sound just like them!
Ok, actually it sucks and almost got me banned from FR.
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