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A statement, (Red)Sox declare [Yea but... who's your daddy?!]
The Boston Globe ^ | October 13, 2004 | By Gordon Edes

Posted on 10/13/2004 6:49:04 AM PDT by johnny7

NEW YORK -- The gloom of seeing their ace bounced after just three innings, his shortest outing in three years, was worsened by the knowledge that the Curt Schilling who had carried them all season might not be seen again this October.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
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To: wireman

Well, It is good to have a dream.....


81 posted on 10/13/2004 11:57:40 AM PDT by DSBull (Leather Belts, with Liberal logic everywhere they are keeping my head from exploding)
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To: Alberta's Child
I'm no fan of the Red Sox, but last night's game did not bode well for the Yankees. They had their best pitcher on the mound throwing the game of his career and an 8-0 lead, and they damn near lost the game. This is an ominous sign for the Yankees, because the end result is likely to change when they go into the 7th inning with "only" a five-run lead.

What about it being ominous for the Red Sox? Their No. 1 pitcher was trash-talking up a storm about how he was going to shut up 55,000 fans, and he ended up skulking out of the game after three innings. And their No. 2 starter calls the Yankees his daddy. If you're going to extrapolate all sorts of sordid implications for the Yankees, then you should do the same for the Red Sox. I say it's just one game, and I'm not going to read anything into it for either team or for the series, other than the Yankees getting a W in one game.

82 posted on 10/13/2004 11:59:30 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago

The Yankee victory in Game 1 should be the most ominous sign of all. They usually lose when they win the first game, don't they?


83 posted on 10/13/2004 12:04:07 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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To: dmz

One of the great things when the Blue Jays won it all was that Billy Buckner was in their system as a batting instructor and got a World Series ring as a result. :)


84 posted on 10/13/2004 12:06:33 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Alberta's Child
The Yankee victory in Game 1 should be the most ominous sign of all. They usually lose when they win the first game, don't they?

They lost Game 1 in the World Series last year, but lost the series. But they've also won Game 1s before and won series, as well as lost them. There's not necessarily a correlation. At any rate, baseball is a marathon, not a sprint, so I don't get to dancing in the streets over one game. I found it annoying when Yankee-haters trash-talked the Yankees when they lost Game 1 against the Twins, so I'm not going to consider the series won because the Yankees won game one this time.

85 posted on 10/13/2004 12:09:02 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: xp38

I did not know that. That's funny.


86 posted on 10/13/2004 12:09:42 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Joe Driscoll
"The reputation of Yankee fans has once again proven to be accurate"

It's true! They are the salt of the Earth.

87 posted on 10/13/2004 12:25:05 PM PDT by wireman
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To: dmz

I find your comments about Mussina and the Orioles intriguing. Specifically, was he always so devoid of personality, or is that a recent development? ;) Seriously, though, Mussina's a pretty serious guy who doesn't seem to like anything messing up his routine. Was he always that way?


88 posted on 10/13/2004 12:25:27 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: dmz

It is. I recall posting this info a year or two ago on a baseball thread here on FR and then double checking my old media guides to be sure. He definitely got a ring if not two. I was responding to one of the baseball experts we had who was saying Buckner was actually a good player with a decent career and that one incident had completely tainted it.


89 posted on 10/13/2004 12:28:16 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Alberta's Child
In the ALCS, the Yankees usually just win. Period.

Fox showed a graphic last night that showed the Bombers are something like 7-1 in the ALCS all time.

Now lately in the Series it has been a different story.

90 posted on 10/13/2004 12:31:29 PM PDT by wireman
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To: bridgemanusa
Yeah.. Ok.. Whatever. Just like the dems, the Yankees will try AGAIN to BUY another world series. The Sox are a great team with a real cast of characters that showed some tru grit

Yes, George Steinbrenner spends a lot of money, but he wasn't stupid enough to spend $20 million a year on Man Ram. NICE defense by Ramirez in Left Field. For $20 million, you get a great hitter, lousy fielder, worse baserunner and a guy who isn't so great in the clubhouse either. No wonder the Red Sox can't win The Big One.

I hate the Yankees AND the Red Sox. Both get by on huge cable TV markets. Both buy up everyone else's players. Both are insufferably obnoxious. Both think they're God's gift to baseball. Outside of the Northeast, it's tiresome.

91 posted on 10/13/2004 12:37:14 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: johnny7
Can Red Sox nation just chill out. We are only down 1-0. Mussina was spectacular last night. Lets all take a collective sigh and relax. If I recall we were down three to one last year and ended up one bad managerial move away from the world series.

That said lets keep our fingers crossed for Shilling
92 posted on 10/13/2004 12:38:05 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: xp38
It is. I recall posting this info a year or two ago on a baseball thread here on FR and then double checking my old media guides to be sure. He definitely got a ring if not two. I was responding to one of the baseball experts we had who was saying Buckner was actually a good player with a decent career and that one incident had completely tainted it.

I think Buckner wrongly gets a bad rap for that game. People forget that the Mets had already tied the game at home when the ball went through Buckner's legs. And nobody seems to remember, or blame, 1) Schiraldi's terrible pitching performance, or 2) McNamara's terrible managing.

93 posted on 10/13/2004 12:40:18 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: repubzilla
Not to start a big sports hullabaloo....but I get sick and tired of the deep pockets, money, money, money crying everyone does. The Yankees have the money because they run a great organization. They have the market, merchandise, and an owner who wants to win.

Nonsense. They have the money because of a huge cable TV audience in their local market. The Cleveland Indians in the latter half of the 1990's had 455 straight sellouts and merchandise income right up with everyone else, but the local TV market just can't match New York. We lost Albert Belle, Jim Thome and Man Ram to free agency. Seattle lose A-Rod, The Unit and Griffey. Montreal lost Pedro and Vlad. Even New York's owner is from Lorain, Ohio -- where the Indians flagship broadcast station is located! Yes, the Yankees have a great organization ... but it is ridiculous to pretend they don't have an enormous advantage in money.

94 posted on 10/13/2004 12:44:40 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: repubzilla
YANKEES =REPUBLICAN VALUES AND A BUSH WIN!

New York, a state that gave us Senator Hillary Clinton. Thanks guys! >:-(

95 posted on 10/13/2004 12:46:29 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (Conservative, Republican, Raiders Fan)
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To: johnny7

Kerry jinxed them when he threw out that ball. They didn't stand a chance.


96 posted on 10/13/2004 12:58:09 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: NYCVirago

Yes. Even as a rookie, he really wanted stuff to go a certain way. I don't think he had a bad attitude at all, just very structured in his approach.

He definitely won't win "Most Engaging Personality" competitions.


97 posted on 10/13/2004 1:23:17 PM PDT by dmz
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To: xp38

That part is definitely true. One bad grounder...


98 posted on 10/13/2004 1:24:12 PM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz
Yes. Even as a rookie, he really wanted stuff to go a certain way. I don't think he had a bad attitude at all, just very structured in his approach. He definitely won't win "Most Engaging Personality" competitions.

Mussina is one of the smarter guys in baseball, and from what I hear from people who've met him, he's a really nice guy with the fans. I just wish he'd realize that when he talks about his routine being messed up, like with the Yankees' trip to Japan, he comes off as a whiny crybaby!

99 posted on 10/13/2004 2:43:35 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: johnny7

100 posted on 10/13/2004 3:04:24 PM PDT by rocksblues (Sorry John, we remember and will never forget your treason!)
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