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Group: al-Qaida Detainees 'Disappeared'
Associated Press ^ | Oct 11th, 2004 | SAM DOLNICK

Posted on 10/11/2004 5:50:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb

NEW YORK - At least 11 al-Qaida suspects have "disappeared" in U.S. custody, and some may have been tortured, Human Rights Watch said in a report issued Monday.

The prisoners are probably being held outside the United States without access to the Red Cross or any oversight of their treatment, the human rights group said. In some cases, the United States will not even acknowledge the prisoners are in custody.

The report said the prisoners include the alleged architect of the Sept. 11 attacks, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, as well as Abu Zubaydah, who is believed to be a close aide to Osama bin Laden.

In refusing to disclose the prisoners' whereabouts or acknowledge the detentions, Human Rights Watch said, the U.S. government has violated international law, international treaties and the Geneva Convention. The group called on the government to bring all the prisoners "under the protection of the law."

"I think the U.S. demeans itself when it adopts the philosophy that the ends justify the means in the fight against terror," said Reed Brody, special counsel with Human Rights Watch.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: khalidmohammed
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To: Artemis Webb

Bush has them detained with OBL. He will bring them all out on 11/1. Each one will stare directly into the camera and repeat:

"We worked with Saddam and were trained in Iraq to blow up women and children in the US".


21 posted on 10/11/2004 6:00:58 PM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: Artemis Webb

Considering it's an Associated Press story- Who cares? if only
the Associated Press would follow their lead and disappear, too.


22 posted on 10/11/2004 6:01:31 PM PDT by A. Morgan ( If I wanted to see Horsesh*t, I could go out to the barn and see it for free.)
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To: Artemis Webb

I hate the scumbags at Human Rights Watch. They are only for humans who attack America.

If 11 Al Queda pukes have "disappeared",then maybe that's how we have discovered and thwarted terrorist plots the last couple of years.


23 posted on 10/11/2004 6:01:39 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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All they got is "may have been" and "probably".... ? What a crock.


24 posted on 10/11/2004 6:02:07 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: Artemis Webb
This is absurd. Reed Brody might as well have said that aliens have abducted the detainees. There's just as much proof to prove the alien theory as there is to prove the "torture" and "disappearing prisoner" theory.

He filled in a hell of a lot of blanks to come up with this fantasy.
25 posted on 10/11/2004 6:02:16 PM PDT by Jaysun (SORRY, this tag line is not an instant winner. Please play again.)
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To: Artemis Webb

26 posted on 10/11/2004 6:02:40 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: Artemis Webb
In refusing to disclose the prisoners' whereabouts or acknowledge the detentions, Human Rights Watch said, the U.S. government has violated international law, international treaties and the Geneva Convention. The group called on the government to bring all the prisoners "under the protection of the law."

Seeing as terrorists don't meet the definitions included in the Geneva conventions, I'm not sure what this whining is about. Is there some treaty the US signed on to specifying how to treat terrorists that I missed?

Traditionally a terrorist would be executed, generally after torture. This is one of the reasons that terrorism is more common now that such an end so much less likely.
27 posted on 10/11/2004 6:03:55 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country -John Edwards)
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To: Artemis Webb

The Manhattan Project?


28 posted on 10/11/2004 6:04:45 PM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: FesterUSMC

But we certainly have been exposed to the torture and execution of the hostages via the internet. I didn't read anywhere in the article about Kenneth Bigley and the others.


29 posted on 10/11/2004 6:04:59 PM PDT by NY Attitude
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To: Artemis Webb
In refusing to disclose the prisoners' whereabouts or acknowledge the detentions, Human Rights Watch said, the U.S. government has violated international law, international treaties and the Geneva Convention.

Aren't we allowed to shoot them as spies under the Geneva Convention?

30 posted on 10/11/2004 6:05:30 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Artemis Webb
The report said the prisoners include the alleged architect of the Sept. 11 attacks,
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed...


AW, thanks for posting...you beat me to it.

I can barely restrain myself from calling Human Rights Watch to inform them that
KSM IS the victim of crimes far exceeding those of Abu-What-the-heck-was-the-name-of-
that-prison...

Truth be told, MILLIONS of American males that were in college/university
during the 1980s/90s will testify that KSM has been the long-term victim of CIA
mind-control experiements.

And that those cruel experiements are fully documented on videotapes in which KSM
has been forced to engage in vigorous, unspeakable acts of sexual degredation with
HUNDREDS (heck, maybe THOUSANDS) of nubile young infidel women...
under the name of Ron Jeremy.
31 posted on 10/11/2004 6:06:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Artemis Webb
Darn it Scotty! Now that those freepers know about our new invisibility weapon the whole world is gonna know!
32 posted on 10/11/2004 6:06:22 PM PDT by badpacifist
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To: Artemis Webb

Let's just say that they are no longer a problem to the United States of America.


33 posted on 10/11/2004 6:07:40 PM PDT by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: Artemis Webb
Too Damn Bad.

No kidding.

34 posted on 10/11/2004 6:08:20 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Artemis Webb
The group called on the government to bring all the prisoners "under the protection of the law."

If this group wants my support they should channel that attitude in the direction of those criminals and murders who are beheading innocent people.

To bad they are not as concerned for

Kenneth Bigley:

Jack Hensley

Eugene Armstrong

Paul Johnson

Nichols Berg

It is easy to accuse a country of human rights abuses, especially when the country does not cut off someone's head for pleasure.

35 posted on 10/11/2004 6:08:54 PM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: Artemis Webb
Maybe we haven't revealed where these terrorists are BECAUSE we don't want to encourage terrorist attacks aimed at freeing terrorists.

Example: the Christmas hijacking (1999?) of an Indian airliner to Taliban-controlled Kabul.

Result: Hijackers disappeared into Afghan populous; several terrorists released from Indian jails, only to terrorize again.
36 posted on 10/11/2004 6:09:51 PM PDT by dufekin (President Kerry would have our enemies partying like it's 1969, when Kerry first committed treason.)
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To: federal
I was thinking I read a article which stated that Human Rights Watch was tied in with George Soro's Open Society or what ever it's called.

Does anyone know if that is right?

I don't know....

37 posted on 10/11/2004 6:10:08 PM PDT by FesterUSMC ("If you don't have the hammer, you are going to be the anvil, and I would rather have the hammer!")
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To: Artemis Webb

Screw the Human Rights Watch....where was the human rights of the 3000 that died on 9/11? We want OUR day of reckoning!!!


38 posted on 10/11/2004 6:10:16 PM PDT by BriarBey
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To: VOA
I'd be skeptical, but you notice that you never do see the two of them together...hmm...
39 posted on 10/11/2004 6:10:31 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Solamente
Awww, did the poor widdle alQaida terrorists meet an untimely end? Well then.....


40 posted on 10/11/2004 6:10:46 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (President Kerry - - there, scared ya didn't I?)
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