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Kerry Losing Ground Among White Catholics
Beliefnet.com ^ | Steven Waldman

Posted on 10/10/2004 10:23:40 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

Could the first Catholic presidential nominee since 1960 lose the election because of the Catholic vote?

Even as Kerry is drawing closer to Bush in general, he is falling farther behind among one surprising and crucial group: white Catholics.

According to a Pew study released Monday, President Bush now leads among white Catholics 49% to 33%. That represents further growth from Pew's September 28 poll which had it at 49% to 39%.

The candidates had been roughly even until August, when Bush began to pull ahead, according to Luis Lugo, director of the Pew Religion Forum. Significantly, Bush won the white Catholic vote by 7 percentage points (he lost the overall Catholic vote, which includes Hispanics, by 2%).

In other words, if the election were held today and reflected these polls, Bush's victory margin among white Catholics would be twice as large against Kerry--the first Catholic major party presidential nominee since 1960--than against the Baptist Al Gore.

This is extremely bad news for Kerry because white Catholics are disproportionately represented in several battleground states with large Catholic populations: Pennsylvania (30%), New Jersey (45.9%), Ohio (28%), Michigan (28%), Wisconsin (34.4), Minnesota (28.7%) and New Hampshire (38.2%).

Kerry has said he plans to give a major speech on his Catholic faith and how it shapes his values "somewhere in the course of the next month."

For Kerry to be doing this badly among Catholics, it most likely he means he's losing not only conservative Catholics but the far larger group of "convertible Catholics," which represent 8.1% of the electorate.

The new polls did not indicate what prompted the shift but in general conservative Catholics have been strong supporters of President Bush's policies on terrorism and abortion. It's less clear why Bush seems to be doing so well among centrist Catholics, who tend to be more liberal on social issues and even tend to be pro-choice on abortion.

Kerry has been far more reluctant to discuss his faith than Bush has, a tendency that aides attribute to a Northeast Catholic cultural aversion to public explications of religion. He and other speakers did speak openly about his faith during the Democratic convention but has shifted back more recently to his pre-convention tendency to avoid the topic.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bush; catholics; catholicvote; kerry; religion
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Loosing ground in the Hispanic Catholic Church too.


21 posted on 10/10/2004 11:16:46 PM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: orangelobster

All the good folks are up in the North. In Queensland. I guess we are more like Texans than anyone else. Friendly people, helpfull and hospitable. No nonsense. Come on over soon. I know you'll love it!
Kerry would last less than five minutes.


22 posted on 10/10/2004 11:26:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. See FRED NERKS for link)
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To: Salvation
I think this is against Church law.

I'm not Catholic so I really didn't know. I'm Lutheran and I haven't seen him in my Church. My point is he shouldn't be campaigning in ANY Church but the rules are different for DemocRATS.

23 posted on 10/10/2004 11:31:50 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Natural Law
Kerry isn't Catholic. Catholic is the adherence to the teachings of the Church. Kerry only pays it lip service.

The 39% of the voters that support Kerry probably fall into the 'lip service' category too.

24 posted on 10/10/2004 11:41:27 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: orangelobster

The liberal white elitists like to slap some skin to get that vote once again. Those fake reverends are nothing more than poverty pimps and hate America. Bush/Cheney 2004


25 posted on 10/11/2004 2:03:10 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: Merry

Kerry has made a mockery of everything decent in life. Skerry is about as catholic as his islamic terrorist supporters. Kerry/kennedy should have been ex-communicated eons ago. The Pope should have done his job of kicking these two CINOs out long ago. I would like to see a young conservative Priest with some fire as the next Pope. Sorry, tired old senile men are not cutting the mustard anymore. I think the cheek has been turned one too many times in dealing with liberal pro-death liberal elitist CINOs. Bush/Cheney 2004


26 posted on 10/11/2004 2:12:29 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: Dat Mon

I believe you are correct on this Dat Mon. Bush/Cheney 2004


27 posted on 10/11/2004 2:17:38 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: NYer

Fools always exist for the purpose of continuing to be a fool. Bush/Cheney 2004


28 posted on 10/11/2004 2:19:16 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62) "See Ya"ll At The VA Clinic" "Xin Loi My Boy")
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To: No Surrender No Retreat

29 posted on 10/11/2004 2:20:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Massachuetts is heavily Catholic - even out on the west end, in the Berkshires. Pittsfield, at least when I lived there, was called "Little Italy."
Wouldn't it be a hoot if kerry lost Mass.


30 posted on 10/11/2004 2:21:04 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Kerry has said he plans to give a major speech on his Catholic faith and how it shapes his values "somewhere in the course of the next month."

..............


To little, too late, too lame


31 posted on 10/11/2004 2:22:18 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Recovering_Democrat; onyx; arasina; fortunecookie

I really wish people would stop saying Kerry is Catholic. It's a lie. He goes through the motions, that's all.

Perhaps if Lurch knew a few white Catholics, he might find out what is important to us. But given all the blood money he gets from the abortion industry, I think not: his ignorance is willful.


32 posted on 10/11/2004 2:23:28 AM PDT by Petronski (Under tremendous pressure, I must finish my novel...my time here will be severely curtailed.)
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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites), second left, joins former congresswoman Carrie Meek, left, the Rev. Jessie Jackson, center, the Rev. Al Sharpton (news - web sites) and Pastor Gaston E. Smith, right, in prayer at Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Miami, Sunday, Oct. 10, 2004. (AP Photo/Carl Juste, pool)

33 posted on 10/11/2004 2:23:44 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I have also heard that the Pope is losing ground with Black Buddhists.


34 posted on 10/11/2004 2:24:14 AM PDT by Bandaneira (The Third Temple/House for All Nations/World Peace Centre...Coming Soon..)
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To: kcvl

the photos 0f Kerry with jackson in churh

;.............

arrrgh
gotta go - i think i'm going to throw up


35 posted on 10/11/2004 2:28:39 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Recovering_Democrat

36 posted on 10/11/2004 2:30:46 AM PDT by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: orangelobster
Kerry must have a dim view of the intelligence of black voters.

Nah, only those who make less than $200,000 a year.

Kerry has a dim view of the intelligence of practically everyone.

37 posted on 10/11/2004 2:33:27 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maine-iac7
Notice the campaign signs IN CHURCH!!!
38 posted on 10/11/2004 2:39:40 AM PDT by kcvl
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Supporters of U.S. Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry (news - web sites) during a service at Friendship Missionary Baptist Church in Miami, Florida, October 10, 2004.

39 posted on 10/11/2004 2:41:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: teletech

Well, it may not be "stumping" but here in Cleveland (heavily Dem) he used our Cathedral as a photo op on Ash Wednesday. That revolted me even more. I know quite a few people who are now Independent because of the liberal slant of the DemonRat party--especially me!


40 posted on 10/11/2004 2:56:28 AM PDT by Warrior_Queen
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