Posted on 10/04/2004 12:03:24 PM PDT by MississippiMan
The issue of what Kerry brought with him to the podium is not a petty one. A candidate who had simply a list of talking points on paper would be at a huge advantage vs. the other participant who played by the rules.
Based on the most recent reports here, it sounds as if even Fox News is about to forget and drop the issue, since they've declared that they're 99% certain the object in question is a pen.
It's hard to fathom what's going on here, unless they're viewing an incomplete clip of what took place. For even the low-resolution copies of the event that are posted online make it blatantly clear that, yes, he had a PEN (OBJECT 1) in his RIGHT hand, but he also removed a LIGHT-COLORED RECTANGULAR OBJECT (OBJECT 2) from inside his jacket with his LEFT hand. He then handles the object in a fashion that suggests UNFOLDING, and places it on the deck of the podium.
As mentioned already, I am a digital forensics examiner. I have a state-of-the-art forensic video system. I have briefly examined the low-resolution clips of the event, and at first impression, OBJECT 2 appears to be a folded sheet or sheets of light-colored paper. It is DEFINITELY rectangular. It is DEFINITELY light-colored. And it is DEFINITELY distinct and separate from OBJECT 1.
I would very much like to examine a high-resolution version of the clip; ideally this will be an uncompressed digital video file digitized from a digital broadcast master. If anyone has any connections or access to one of the networks or C-SPAN or whatever, and can obtain said file, it would be immensely helpful.
This is about playing by the rules, folks. I for one am sick and tired of sitting back and watching the rules broken without consequence. It is high time to hold people accountable. That applies to the candidates and the media, whether the media member in question is CBS or Fox News Channel. If it's wrong, it's wrong. And if they're reporting that Kerry brought nothing but a pen to the podium, THEY'RE WRONG.
MM
harumph!
Translation: I agree!!!
Viewerservices@foxnews.com
Email fox and ask for posting of the High Res footage. At least the first 40 seconds.
I am with you 100%. I feel the same way. What we are doing is saying, "Its okay to cheat." I hate that.
C-SPAN sells copies of the debate on DVD. You can buy it for 25 dollars here:
http://www.c-spanstore.org/cgi-bin/cspanstore/183580-1.html
Good luck. I've continued to email fox and others pointing out exactly what you wrote that there is no way it is a PEN.
Gary
It is hard to believe Kerry would do something like this--not because he has scruples, of course, but because the fallout if caught could be large. That said, have you considered that there might be HDTV recordings of this somewhere? They would have much better definition than someone could pull off of a VCR recording a standard broadcast.
Looks like a NAVPERS 1650/16 Personal Award Recommendation form that Kerry always keeps handy.
Good luck in finding a digital version of the clip. Let us know what you come up with. A lot of people are playing this down but this is a clear indication of the character of Kerry or lack thereof.
It is obviously not a pen
Bumping this!
Go for it!
Non-techie here, so all i can do is bump and pray! LOL!
Email FOX and everybody else. That is all any of us can do. Good luck. And I am with you all the way -- it's definitely a white square, not a pen.
Go to LittleGreenFootballs. I think he has some high rez.
I agree completely with everything that you just said.
This should be pursued by the bloggers and the real news people (that is, not Pierre Jenning). It was a big mistake to let Clinton off the hook because people got tired of his scandals. That should never happen again.
I'm with you too. I've viewed the low res video over and over, and he was unfolding something.
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He needs "an uncompressed digital video file digitized from a digital broadcast master." Not what has been posted.
They cheated, and nothing will happen here. I bet the next time, Kerry will be scrutinized like nobody's business though. Cameras will be looking at his hands and ears VERY carefully.
I have the whole debate on TIVO, I am going to go through it end to end and see if I can find Kerry referring to something or at the end putting whatever he had up.
Back later.
bttt
Go get 'em MM.
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