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DEM FLASHED 'WRITE' STUFF AT DEBATE (KERRY PULLED OUT A BLACK PEN?)
New York Post ^ | 10/04/04 | GERSH KUNTZMAN

Posted on 10/03/2004 11:56:26 PM PDT by kattracks

October 4, 2004 -- Was John Kerry trying to pull something at the debate last week?

That question was burning up the Internet yesterday after a slo-mo review of the footage showed the Massachusetts senator taking an object out of his right pocket before the first question.

Was it a cheat sheet — as some conservative bloggers claimed — or was it something innocuous?

Either way, it would violate the debate rules agreed to by both campaigns: "No props, notes . . . or other tangible things may be brought into the debate."

Many blogs offered links to the "Pocket-gate" footage. One, INDC Journal, even posted frame-by-frame stills purporting to show Kerry pulling out a notecard and placing it onto the podium.

But the mystery was solved when The Post reviewed a Fox News Channel feed from Thursday's debate: Kerry pulled out . . . a black pen.


(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheat; cheater; firstdebate; kerry; pen
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To: kattracks

Did Laherer lie when he said no one knew what the questions would be when he started the debate?????

Did Kerry have the answers ready for the camera?????????


121 posted on 10/04/2004 4:13:54 AM PDT by chainsaw (Vote American - Vote for BUSH)
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To: mewzilla

Maybe it's a pocket protector and the pen is in it?


122 posted on 10/04/2004 4:14:03 AM PDT by Nataku X (Live near a liberal college? Want to demoralize Dems? FRmail me to join in Operation Reverse Moby!)
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To: Nakatu X

LOL! Does someone do a designer pocket protector, complete with logo that sells for more than the GDP of most small nations?


123 posted on 10/04/2004 4:15:19 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

Next you know, they'll be hiring David Copperfield as their public relations man.

Then everything contrary to kerry's liking will be simply "disappeared"....:))


124 posted on 10/04/2004 4:16:12 AM PDT by Salamander (Pirates of the Appalachians)
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To: kattracks

FoxNews was the one who got camera rights to the debate. They provided 'pool' feed to the networks. Theirs was the only camera authorized to broadcast. (IIRC)


125 posted on 10/04/2004 4:17:44 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: igoramus987
But he had just finished shaking hands with President Bush, and I haven't seen any indication that his right hand went into any of his pockets betweeen then and the frame you posted. So, how did he get something in his right hand?

It's a mystery.

126 posted on 10/04/2004 4:19:33 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Darkwolf377

ROTFL

You're right, someone here mentioned that only one Presidental candidate that won the first televised debate has gone on to win an election! (Clinton in 1996)


127 posted on 10/04/2004 4:21:52 AM PDT by Nataku X (Live near a liberal college? Want to demoralize Dems? FRmail me to join in Operation Reverse Moby!)
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To: kattracks

Someone in one of the threads last evening posted that 'they saw Kerry remove an earpiece and put it in his pocket at the end of the debate.'

[Poster didn't indicate whether that was seen live -- the person was actually at the debate -- or broadcast.]

If true, the RNC should do some electronic jamming during the next debate.


128 posted on 10/04/2004 4:21:54 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: kattracks; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
5(d) Notwithstanding subparagraph 5(c), the candidates may
take notes during the debate on the size, color, and
type of paper each prefers and using the type of pen
or pencil that each prefers. Each candidate must
submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the
debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with
which a candidate may wish to take notes during the
debate, and the staff of the Commission will place
such paper, pens, and pencils on the podium
, table, or
other structure to be used by the candidate in that
debate.

Even if it was a pen, and I don't think it was, Kerry still violated the rules he agreed to.

129 posted on 10/04/2004 4:39:43 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: TomGuy

IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN. IT IS NOT A PEN.
The sky is not red. 2+2 does not equal 5.


130 posted on 10/04/2004 4:39:47 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: johnnycap
The sky is not red

Oh, NOW you tell me!!!

131 posted on 10/04/2004 4:40:44 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: kattracks
"We plead guilty to having a pen."

Even that was not allowed, so why isn't this a bigger story.

132 posted on 10/04/2004 4:42:19 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: TomGuy
Someone in one of the threads last evening posted that 'they saw Kerry remove an earpiece and put it in his pocket at the end of the debate.'

That would explain all the nodding Kerry was doing. Anyone seen any close-ups of Kerry's ears?

133 posted on 10/04/2004 4:43:10 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla

HELP!!! How come on Fox they are taking the NY Post's LIBERAL author's word that its 'just' a pen and NOT a story!!!??????


134 posted on 10/04/2004 4:54:45 AM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: spacejunkie

A very good question and one that has been much on my mind :)


135 posted on 10/04/2004 4:56:27 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: spacejunkie

Maybe someone twigged to the earpiece, captured the audio, FNC has the tape, is waiting to play it and thinks the crib notes are small beer :)


136 posted on 10/04/2004 4:57:34 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: spacejunkie

Did you just see Mancow ask if there was cheating and ED jumped right in and said it was a black pen? Brian and Steve said nothing but I think they were thinking plenty. Why did ED do that?


137 posted on 10/04/2004 5:00:06 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

"Did you just see Mancow ask if there was cheating and ED jumped right in and said it was a black pen? Brian and Steve said nothing but I think they were thinking plenty. Why did ED do that?"


Perhaps she is nothing more than "dumb", too bad we can't ask her to show the video.


138 posted on 10/04/2004 5:03:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

I think ED's problem is she goes out of her way to be non partisan, at the expense of facts, unfortunately. If I were them, I'd reserve any comments (good or bad) until a full investigation is performed. She also commented that he was putting a pen in his pocket....not even close.

To me, this 'taking something out of the pocket' is blatantly obvious and needs to be exposed.


139 posted on 10/04/2004 5:07:17 AM PDT by spacejunkie
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To: Lovebloggers
He was most likely told it was a pen,...

Which, by some (not so) strange coincidence, is what the Kerry campaign is claiming it was.

140 posted on 10/04/2004 5:08:37 AM PDT by kattracks
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