Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion
Kerry is managing to get all his points in, but the questions thus far are designed for him to be able to do so.
Anyone else note that the lighting tonight makes W appear more orange than sKerry? (sKerry call in one of the impeached former president's Hwood makeup people?)
Kerry is so damn negative; I can't stand to listen to this crap.
Try---try,folks---to look at this debate through the eyes of an "undecided" voter in this election. That basically means look at this debate as someone who takes only the slightest of interest in politics every four years, someone who doesn't have a very deep understanding of the issues.
Those meeting John Kerry for the first time tonight, and being reintroduced to George W. Bush in comparison to a fresh, new opponent, have watched the first 20 minutes of this and thought John Kerry has gotten the best of this debate.
Why? George Bush is coming across as defensive, trying to make his point almost solely through force (raising his voice, etc.). Those clumsy pauses and, well, confusing Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden, make him seem...tired, not totally dialed in.
One reason why Kerry is doing well is he's not being an ass like Al Gore was four years ago. Notice he's being careful to be respectful, nodding whenever Bush makes a positive comment, etc.
So far, if this was a boxing match, it'd be 10-9 Kerry through the first couple of rounds.
Hopefully the president will step it up a bit over the next hour, 'cause he's being reactionary and slow at the moment.
What about the comment Bush just made about "How's he gonna pay for it?". THAT was a germane point to make, then he confuses the issue by saying "but that's for another debate."
Huh?
Then, after downing Kerry for wanting to spend more money on homeland security---in the *very next breath*---he starts boasting about the billions in new spending he's authorized in recent years.
So, it's bad to spend freely on new programs... but not when I do it.
C'mon, Mr. President!
glad he's staying on message...is he a little shakey though? maybe he's just really pissed at hearing all these lies
What does he call the federal funding thrown in for the Big Dig in Boston? Chump change?
Stay calm and hit hard, Mr. President.
That would have been the greatest event in the history of television....and you think I'm kidding...
bush's character comes thru but he is not doing as well as I expected. Kerry comes across as a naysaing nitpicker.
Bush is stumbling around a bit.
Kerry is "killing Bush"? What the bloody hell are YOU watching?
you are right, bobble head
http://www.georgewbush.com/debatefacts/Debate.aspx?stamp=9/30/2004%209:20:35%20PM
Now I know what the Dems were begging so hard for money before the end of the month. Kerry's performance tonight is not going to fill the coffers! They must have known.
I wish I WERE. I forgot to make the beer run before this to make it easier to look at Kerry's ugly, lying butt for the better part of 90m.
"What the Hell is he talking about?"
My 11 year old just walked out and said "Kerry is a crackpot."
OMG I cant' stand this either.
W has GOT to chill! And his tone is drowning out all of his words- even I cannot remember all he has said because he is coming across all wrong.
BUSH IS DISGUSTED AT THIS DOG AND PONY SHOW AND IT SHOWS!! I THINK HE IS ABOUT READY TO WALK OFF THE STAGE.
I CAN NOT WATCH ANYMORE.
TRHE PRESIDENT IS TIRED, SINCE HE HAS BEEN LEADING THE COUNTRY.
AND KERRY IS A DAMNED HYPOCRITE.
KERRY JUST TOLD THE CITIZENS THAT FLYTING IS NOT SAFE.
Xray the cargo hold? Was that a coded message for a terror cell?
Now I have to go find something to drink! I hate it when W stutters, makes me nervous as hell!!!
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