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FR Live Thread: Bush Kerry - First Debate - Thread 2 - Here we go!

Posted on 09/30/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

Thread 1 - Pre-Debate discussion


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; debate; debates; electionpresident; firstdebate; globalpoints; kerry
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To: earlyamerican
Did anyone notice Kerry bringing up that detestable Frenchman DeGaulle? This guy is unbelievable. Churchill and Roosevelt both detested DeGaulle.

Joe Biden brought up DeGaulle in his DNC speech. It's a way of invoking JFKI and not Chirac.

Rove/Powell's decision to play nice to France and not explain their perfidy coming back to haunt Bush.

1,941 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:23 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: ScottFromSpokane

W is coming across as knowledgeable- -- Kerry is talking in big grand ideas and W is very specific and showing he is the MASTER of global chess.

Speaking about how China needs to be there to pressure NK, brilliant. SHows he is VERY cunning- W showing how he is a fox. Kerry showing he can only talk in big overreaching concepts with no nitty gritty.


1,942 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:23 PM PDT by lawgirl (I like knowing where my President is every night- at home in bed with his wife!)
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To: austinaero

It's nice to know that Lurch would be able to end nuclear proliferation in four years. (/Sarcasm)


1,943 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:25 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Debate THIS, Lurch!)
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To: Petronski
why do many of the doom-n-gloomers on this thread have names that this Free Republic veteran of six years have never seen before?

Yeah, I noticed that too.

Trying hard to be non-partisan here, at best for Kerry, this debate is a wash. Kerry needs much more than a wash. Bush doesn't need to deliver red-meat attacks. He already has the votes of the people that would eat that up.

1,944 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:26 PM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: sitkaspruce

I think bush won the debate. Not by much, but by enough.


1,945 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:26 PM PDT by One Dight
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To: the lone highschooler

If i drank, i would be pretty darn looped by now if we had chosen "north korea" and our drink phrase


1,946 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:29 PM PDT by Taffini (One of the pajama people)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Kerry says he's gonna take on Russia too


1,947 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:31 PM PDT by Mo1 (Why is the MSM calling the Vietnam Vets and POW's a suspected group??)
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To: JFC

Bush looks like the teacher and Kerry looks like the student that thinks he knows better!!!!!


1,948 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:31 PM PDT by lyingisbetter ("Let's wait Kerry" or Let's go Bush")
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To: Jrabbit
Why are so many full of doom and gloom?

Full moon? Gives them something to say? Anyway, don't pay it any mind. Trust your own senses. We really don't know, for sure, how this will play ut in the voting public. FWIW, I think GWB is doing fine, and Kerry is not. The debate doesn't score like HS forensics.

1,949 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:33 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: TheLion
Bush should refute this idiot on every point!

Notice the smug look on Kerry's face. Every time he finishes the last 15 seconds of his answers with as many points as he can. He's spreading out the ground that Bush has to answer on.

Kerry is good, but that doesn't change the fact that he is a disingenuous politician with no real policy except whatever best answers the question for his audience.

1,950 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:41 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Khaosai

Yeah, Dubya missed a LOT of chances to clean Kerry's clock tonight. Double-damn! :(


1,951 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:45 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: USA_Soccer

It is obvious Kerry had the questions beforehand. He can't even answer straight at a news conference ordinarily. The press and media are determined Bush is going to lose. They gave him the questions.


1,952 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:45 PM PDT by Hattie
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To: Sooth2222

Great news from Tradesports. Putting your money where your mouth is means you're going to be as objective as you can be.


1,953 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:47 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Amore

I've only followed debate here. Taking out the DU trolls 25%-30% of Freepers feel the Pres is losing to greater or lesser extent. This is not good news if his goal is to solidfy and grow the small group of undecideds. All seem to agree that Kerry's style is superior, but his content is filled with lies. That may be true, but in debate uncovering lies is the job of the opposing debater. If Pres. Bush can't do that then he can't win the debate.


1,954 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:47 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (" You have never tasted freedom my friend, else you would know, it is purchased not with gold, but w)
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To: BonnieJ

Amen sister...what a bunch of faithless wiennies..

rock on W. you smoked him more than he has smoked you and Kerry has said a few really bad soundbites that will bite him in the ass


1,955 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:49 PM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Vote Catholic Not Kerry)
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To: nmh
Holy crap! Did Kerry just suggest we shut down OUR nuclear programs to be consistent with those we are trying to stop?

Yup. He shore did.

1,956 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:51 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe ( Jammin' in my jammies)
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To: Petronski; section9

"And by the way, why do many of the doom-n-gloomers on this thread have names that this Free Republic veteran of six years have never seen before?"

GREAT POINT! I was wondering about that.

But you know what? They can make us feel down or worried or whatever...

But it doesn't change how I feel about this President, and how I KNOW a lot of non-freepers feel about him, and getting a few dozen freepers bummed out on a debate thread... well... it's a long way to November. :)

It won't change a darn thing, in the end.

If anything, it will make Republicans even more likely to get out and vote.


1,957 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:51 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Oh, by the way -- thanks for the Internet, Al!)
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To: WashingtonSource
View from Kanuckistan:

President Bush has more than held his own with an openly disingenuous opponent within an unfair "debate" format.

Forget the doom and gloom this in and of itself is a victory.

God Bless America, her President and all members of her patriot Armed Forces!
1,958 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:53 PM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: Admin Moderator

Man I'm So Drunk! Been doing a shot every time Kerry said "I'd have done better..."... on my second fifth!!...


1,959 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:56 PM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: Semper Paratus

Special Memo to GOP'ers planning the 2008 debates:

Stand really really firm on who to allow to moderate these debates.

I've had enough of the Jim Lehrer - Bob Schieffer BS. Every 4 years, it's the same thing.

There have got to be some qualified, truly non-partisan moderators out there!


1,960 posted on 09/30/2004 7:22:57 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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