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To: Tailgunner Joe

Very frightening that anyone supposedly "conservative" would support government mandated morality enforcable by the barrell of a gun!

What consenting adults chose to do should remain a choice. Even God created man with free will, I would hope that you wouldn't ask the government to trump that precious gift!


7 posted on 09/30/2004 2:06:51 PM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: CSM
Very frightening that anyone supposedly "conservative" would support government mandated morality enforcable by the barrell of a gun!

Well.. it all depends on what one defines as morality

Some would say that pounding their scumball neighbor's head into the ground is a moral thing. Should our government stop that? How about running red lights?

I get a kick out of those who claim that the government is not in the business of legislating morality. That is Exactly what they are supposed to do.

Now, again... what is morality?

In essence, it is the collective determination of what is good for society.

I agree that there should be limits as to how far a government will go to limit someone's behavior, for example, they shouldn't peek in your window to determine if you are looking at dirty pictures or banging your boyfriend or even smoking dope... that is too far out of their scope.

On the other hand, I see no problem with the government determining that certain things are bad for society (remember, WE are the government) and thereby making it illegal to sell, distribute, or purchase said things.

If a black market exists on those items, that is essentially OK with me if it stays small enough that it does not have the social impact that legitimizing it would.

Pornography is a great example. Recreational drugs are another.

All that said, the penalty for such things should fit the crime. In the sense that possession of some of these things is "anti-social" at worst, the penalty should be a slap on the wrist. But when you legalize something, you essentially have declared it moral. You have declared that it is OK for society. This changes the equation, especially for kids trying to determine what is right and wrong.

God also created hell.. remember that!
18 posted on 09/30/2004 2:20:39 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: CSM

"God created man with free will, I would hope that you wouldn't ask the government to trump that precious gift!"

Bingo!



19 posted on 09/30/2004 2:20:55 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: CSM
Very frightening that anyone supposedly "conservative" would support government mandated morality enforcable by the barrell of a gun!

To me, this idiotic platitude is the equivalent of saying "Kiddie porn should be legal."
24 posted on 09/30/2004 2:24:42 PM PDT by Antoninus (Abortion; Euthanasia; Fetal Stem Cell Research; Human Cloning; Homo Marriage - NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES)
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To: CSM
Even God created man with free will, I would hope that you wouldn't ask the government to trump that precious gift!

Some think government is God. Others think He left governments to impose His will. Which of course makes sense because Jesus was always asking Caesar to send soldiers to kick the sinner's behinds. Oh, wait...

36 posted on 09/30/2004 2:31:07 PM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: CSM
Very frightening that anyone supposedly "conservative" would support government mandated morality enforcable by the barrell of a gun!

It should frighten you that liberals want to enforce their lack of morality on us at gunpoint. Conservative morality doesn't frighten me. Why does it frighten you?

Even God created man with free will, I would hope that you wouldn't ask the government to trump that precious gift!

He gave me a choice too.

40 posted on 09/30/2004 2:33:17 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: CSM
"Very frightening that anyone supposedly "conservative" would support government mandated morality ..."

If not the conservative, then who? Liberals? Libertarians?

It speaks poorly for our society that morals have to be mandated at all. Our Constitution was written for a moral and religious people -- how does one apply our Constitution to an immoral and non-religious populace?

Certainly you don't think it should apply, do you?

53 posted on 09/30/2004 2:39:53 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: CSM

"Very frightening that anyone supposedly "conservative" would support government mandated morality enforcable by the barrell of a gun!

What consenting adults chose to do should remain a choice. Even God created man with free will, I would hope that you wouldn't ask the government to trump that precious gift!"


Bravo! Fact is, free will is the entire point of mankind. "In his image" refers to spiritual beings with the ability to choose. We are to choose for or against Christ. Our government, any government, is intended to protect our ability to exercise volition........choose.

God save the Republic!!!!!


636 posted on 10/07/2004 1:12:58 PM PDT by petro45acp ("I detest socialism.......and I VOTE!")
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