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Mother Says Son Attacked As 'Jesus Hater'
KIROTV.com ^ | September 28, 2004

Posted on 09/28/2004 10:23:10 PM PDT by Horatio Gates

Woman Says Boy Targeted Because She Is A Witch

TACOMA, Wash. -- Police are investigating an attack on a middle school student as a possible hate crime because the child's mother says she is a witch, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported.

The 11-year-old boy was walking home from Jason Lee Middle School in Tacoma on Monday when a group of children allegedly called him a "Jesus hater", threw rotten apples at him and shouted profanities, said Kathie McKnight, the boy's mother.

McKnight, who said she is a practicing Wiccan, said her faith made her son the target of a hate crime.

"He was calling my son 'Jesus hater' and saying all witches should be burned right before the apples were thrown at him," she said. "So it was very much based on religion."

A Tacoma police spokesman told KIRO 7 Eyewitness News the case is being handled by the department's hate crime specialists


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: hatecrime; strangenews; tacoma; wiccan; witch
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To: shotokan

WICCA

A NEOPAGAN, EARTH-CENTERED RELIGION

The Wiccan faith is a nature-based religion and in many ways its ideals make it a close cousin to Native American spirituality. Founded in the 1940s by British civil servant Gerald Gardner, Wicca's components are based on ceremonial magic and seasonal days of celebration.

While Wiccans tend to believe that there is an omnipotent god or goddess that controls the universe, the relationship they have with that deity is much different from that of Christian religions. As opposed to having a god-worshipper relationship, Wiccans believe they have more of a partnership with the god or goddess, one where the deity needs them just as much as they need it.

Often mistaken as being a form of Satanism, Wicca actually does not recognize Satan, an evil deity who actually belongs more in the realm of Christianity and Islam than Wicca. Satanists and Wiccans actually have very different views about God, rules for ethical behavior and entirely different views of the universe.

Since Wiccans are very close with nature and are highly concerned about its preservation, they often prefer to perform their rituals outdoors. Wiccans follow the Wiccan Rede "A'in it harm none, do what thou wilt," meaning that as long as it harms no one, including yourself, one is free to do what one wishes.


61 posted on 09/28/2004 11:52:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: shotokan
Here is why hate crime laws are foolish.

Take the religion issue out of this story, and what have you got? This is just a bunch of kids misbehaving.

The kids just need a little parental discipline. We don't need to make a federal case out of this stuff.

Hate crime laws should be done away, and we should just enforce existing laws more strictly.

Why should punishment be greater for a crime that is motivated by prejudice as opposed to greed, sexual perversion, drug addiction, boredom, or whatever else?

Further, hate crime laws tend to lower the burden of proof standards by creating what is essentially thought crimes. The issue in court becomes whether someone has some prejudice rather than whether they actually committed a crime.

If someone is a member of a hate group, like the KKK, everything they do might be a hate crime. If they cut someone off in traffic, let the door slam in someone's face, etc., it must be a hate crime because they are known haters.

I am not defending racism or other isms, but I know it is just a matter of time before opposing abortion or sodomy will be deemed hate also.

Why is it that liberals have invented so many rights based on privacy, yet intrude into our most private parts - our thoughts and feelings?
62 posted on 09/29/2004 12:01:55 AM PDT by unlearner
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To: unlearner

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The 13 Principles of Wiccan Belief:

1. We practice rites to attune ourselves with the natural rhythm of life forces marked by the phases of the Moon and the seasonal Quarters and Cross Quarters.

2. We recognize that our intelligence gives us a unique responsibility toward our environment. We seek to live in harmony with nature in ecological balance offering fulfillment to life and consciousness within an evolutionary concept.

3. We acknowledge a depth of power far greater than that apparent to the average person. Because it is far greater than ordinary it is sometimes called ‘supernatural’, but we see it as lying within that which is naturally potential to all.

4. We conceive of the Creative Power in the universe as manifesting through polarity – as masculine and feminine – and that this same Creative Power lies in all people and functions through the interaction of the masculine and the feminine. We value neither above the other knowing each to be supportive of the other. We value sex as pleasure as the symbol and embodiment of life, and as one of the sources of energy used in magical practice and religious worship.

5. We recognize both outer worlds and inner, or psychological worlds sometimes known as the Spiritual World, the Collective Unconsciousness, the Inner Planes etc – and we see in the interaction of these two dimensions the basis for paranormal phenomena and magical exercises. We neglect neither dimension for the other, seeing both as necessary for our fulfillment.

6. We do not recognize any authoritarian hierarchy, but do honor those who teach, respect those who share their greater knowledge and wisdom, and acknowledge those who have courageously given of themselves in leadership.

7. We see religion, magick and wisdom in living as being united in the way one views the world and lives within it – a world view and philosophy of life which we identify as Witchcraft – the Wiccan Way.

8. Calling oneself ‘Witch’ does not make a Witch – but neither does heredity itself, nor the collecting of titles, degrees and initiations. A Witch seek to control the forces within her/himself that make life possible in order to live wisely and without harm to others and in harmony with nature.

9. We believe in the affirmation and fulfillment of life in a continuation of evolution and development of consciousness giving meaning to the Universe we know and our personal role within it.

10.Our only animosity towards Christianity, or towards any other religion or philosophy of life, is to the extent that its institutions have claimed to be ‘the only way’ and have sought to deny freedom to others and to suppress other ways of religious practice and belief.

11. As American Witches, we are not threatened by debates on the history of the craft, the origins of various terms, the legitimacy of various aspects of different traditions. We are concerned with our present and our future.

12.We do not accept the concept of absolute evil, nor do we worship any entity known as ‘Satan’ or ‘the Devil’ as defined by Christian tradition. We do not seek power through the suffering of others, nor accept that personal benefit can be derived only by denial to another.

13.We believe that we should seek within Nature that which is contributory to our health and well-being.

Due to Weschcke's efforts these principles were later incorporated into the army's 'Chaplains handbook' for use in the U.S. Army. Shortly after this achievement the Council of American Witches disbanded, this due mainly to the difficulties inherent in reconciling differences among its many member traditions. The 13 Principles of Wiccan Belief lived on however, and today many American Witches continue to endorse it.


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63 posted on 09/29/2004 12:21:17 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
(not that I believe this story, it's too cliched to accept without proof, but)

For crying out loud! Kids throwing rotten apples = hate crime? Gimme a break.

How would you like it if Christian kids had this done to them by non-Christians? Suddenly, it's pretty obviously a hate crime. Any campaign of intimidation/harassment against a non-illegal group is a hate crime.

64 posted on 09/29/2004 12:23:37 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Walkingfeather

Blessed are the cheesemakers.


65 posted on 09/29/2004 12:25:32 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: shotokan

The term witch is actually a medieval mispronouncing of the word -- like they used to pronounce bit as wit.....


66 posted on 09/29/2004 12:28:30 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
yeah really,Back in the day we used have fights with rotten peaches.

let me tell ya ! those suckers hurt and they were messy too.

67 posted on 09/29/2004 1:01:51 AM PDT by Cheapskate ("We got the Steeley Dan t shirts!")
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To: ambrose
Has anyone suggested that Momma Witch beat the boy herself, and then came up with this story to garner publicity?

It sounds more plausible than chasing a kid screaming "Jesus Hater."

68 posted on 09/29/2004 1:05:15 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (The Final Score: Buckhead 1, Talking Head 0)
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To: Walkingfeather

I was just thinking that:>)


69 posted on 09/29/2004 1:06:54 AM PDT by irishtenor (If stupidity were painful, the Democrats would NEED paid health care...)
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To: shotokan

wicca is all about buying differnet colored candles and burning them while saying differnet "spells" . It is about collecting crystals and rubbing them. It is about burning incense and pretending like you think there are moon godesses.


It is, a bunch of quack that I participated in when i was 13.

I do not think it is a coincidence that i had a huge spell of bad luck right after that. It was like god was saying, hey silly look at me i am real and that is fake.

I never really believed in it but i liked candles. So in the end i stayed a christian and bought candles and learned to separate religion from cool candles.


70 posted on 09/29/2004 1:10:03 AM PDT by modest proposal
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To: shotokan

Regardless of why these bullies are doing this if I was the Mom I would first go to the parents of the accused punks and make it clear that my kid is not going to be picked on by bullies who are IMO kids who have low self esteem and troubled lives whom they pick on others in order to make themselves feel good.

Calling the police right off the bat and yelling hate crime is a bit overboard in dealing with the neighborhood punks.

If they did use the term Jesus Hater it does not mean they are Christian kids regardless of what the parents practice.

Being a bully is a troubled youth and now a days can lead to harm beyond throwing a few apples.

Mom of the kid being picked on should nip it in the bud by maturely bringing it to the punks parents attention.

Bullie nowadays are not the same as bullies 20yrs. ago.

I have friends that deal with this with middle schoolers and the punks are brazen.

These bullies are usually from a home where Gramma is working and raising them because they had unfit parents, could have mental illness due to being exposed to drugs and the crap that goes along with that kind of lifestyle.
Just an example of what my friend is dealing with kids picking on her son and this is a charter school.

Threats started out as stealing lunches and bopping the smaller boys on the head and flipping the parents off who spoke up to now on bully saying he has access to lethal weapons and has nothing to lose by blowing someones head off.

Times have changed.


71 posted on 09/29/2004 1:39:52 AM PDT by oceanperch ( Hurricanes,Earthquakes and Volcanoes.....What Next? GOD)
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To: kcvl
I am not sure you intended your response to be directed toward me. My comments were regarding the fallacy of hate crime laws. Whether the victim of the fruit throwing was Wiccan, Christian, or otherwise, this whole thing boils down to childishness that fortunately did not cause any physical injury.

The children, if guilty, need parental discipline, nothing more. They need to ask for forgiveness and make any needed restitution.

Now regarding your comments about Wiccan, I take it that you are a practitioner. The Bible is available and easily accessible within the U.S., so there is no excuse of not knowing what God has to say about this.

"Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, WITCHCRAFT ..." Galatians 5:19-20.

Those who practice witchcraft will be unable to enter paradise when the Lord returns to judge the world. See Revelation 22:15.

God requires repentance from dead works such as witchcraft. See Revelation 9:21.

Our Creator is not part of His creation. Rather than worshiping nature, we ought to worship the Creator. "Worship Him Who made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of water" Revelation 14:7.

According to Romans 1:18-32, those who worship nature rather than God are opening themselves to unclean spirits that will lead them into sexual immorality, bondage and perversion (including homosexuality).

We do not want to make ourselves the enemies of God. He is stronger than we are. He will always win.

God wants to have a relationship with us as "Father".

Even if we have good fathers on earth, they cannot be to us the perfect Father that God is.

He is the Father of the fatherless. (Psalm 68:5)

According to John 1:12, whoever receives Jesus (that is, those who believe on His name), to them is given power to become children of God.

Perhaps, this is the void that needs to be filled in your life.
72 posted on 09/29/2004 7:42:08 AM PDT by unlearner
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To: Indrid Cold
I pray that the Holy Spirit of God touches your heart, and opens it for Jesus Christ to enter. There is indeed a God, and He wants you to know Him and love Him... in fact, that's why He created us... so he could have a relationship with us

It's by ignoring Him (or replacing Him with our own gods) that we hurt Him the most. It's by accepting and loving His Son Jesus that we are redeemed for that sin, and for all others.

73 posted on 09/29/2004 10:44:49 PM PDT by Gargantua
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To: Sofa King

I don't believe it. "Jesus hater" just doesn't sound like something that would come out of a kids mouth. If there are bruises on this kid I think the police would be wise to look at Mommy witch.


75 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:11 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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