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1 posted on 09/24/2004 7:28:05 AM PDT by ironmike4242
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bump


2 posted on 09/24/2004 7:30:23 AM PDT by Vinomori
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The momentum line was predictable, because some of the good polls for Bush clearly oversampled Republicans, so once more polls with better sampling came out, the Bush numbers came down.

Some of us predicted a couple weeks ago that later polls, showing the actual Bush lead of 5-7 points, would be portrayed as a Kerry surge. That's now being stated by the mainstream media, but saying it doesn't make it so.

The race is pretty much frozen at this time, with Bush up by a few points, until the debates.


3 posted on 09/24/2004 7:31:31 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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But Kerry has retaken the lead in Pennsylvania, and that is a big swing. Picking Florida, or a combination of Ohio/any small blue state, puts him in office.


4 posted on 09/24/2004 7:31:40 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://www.drunkenbuffoonery.com/mboards/)
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The answer is "follow the money".

Momentum can be described as being on offense. You can be on offense and still be behind.

When you have momentum, you start putting money in states that you still show behind in. When you don't have momentum you keep money in states you absolutely must defend. kerry pulled a bunch of money out of swing states and challenger states this week. It stands to reason that he feels like he needs to turn around before he can start attacking again.


6 posted on 09/24/2004 7:32:24 AM PDT by tbeatty (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat salad.)
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You're correct.

And in this particular situation, strategy is spelled P-A-N-I-C.

7 posted on 09/24/2004 7:32:42 AM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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People should learn to trust the polls about as much as they trust Dan Rather and CBS. Polls are just about as honest as Gunga Dan.


9 posted on 09/24/2004 7:36:43 AM PDT by Wolfstar (John Kerry may trust the enemies of America, but the American people just can't trust John Kerry.)
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The new Gallup, Marist, and CBS all say Bush is whipping ass in the national front with a JA of 54% in one. State polls all have Bush increasing his lead. Fight now in blue Gore 2000 states. Bush shores up most of his states.

Tad Devine is a talking points wind up toy.(little monkey with clapping symbols comes to mind--cute at first but quickly becomes annoying).


10 posted on 09/24/2004 7:36:43 AM PDT by mlbford2 (Brothers of the Pajamajahadeen, I declare a pajama fatawa against CBS)
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To: ironmike4242; sarasotarepublican
The stepped-up attacks, and the false bravado should be taken for what they are.... strategy.

I believe you are right. The RATs are scared but want to keep the base from getting demoralized and want to keep donations flowing.

Sarasotarepublican posted a blurb yesterday from la.com about a Hollywood party for Kerry where Oracle's Larry Ellison let slip that he had just spoken to Joe Lockhart and that the RAT internal polls showed W up by seven.

Here is the link for the blurb if interested:

http://www.la.com/blog/weblog.php?id=P560

12 posted on 09/24/2004 7:37:33 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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Skerry has pulled ads in MO and Arkansas. He lost any "mo" he had in MO. And AR is Klinton's home state. He can't even carry it.

Polls show Tennessee (algores home state)voters crushing Kerry flatter than fresh cow-pucky. If he has any "mo" it sure as hell ain't 'round here!

14 posted on 09/24/2004 7:39:40 AM PDT by donozark (I fought at the Battle of Kimchi Ridge. The gas...the gas...it was HORRIBLE!)
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Tad gets paid to lie just like Joe, Sandy, Mary beth, James (the snake), Paul (forehead) yada, yada.


15 posted on 09/24/2004 7:40:04 AM PDT by rod1
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Just as a matter of interest, are there any polls on Texas? I haven't seen one and I know there are a lot of Dems in the state. I don't doubt that Bush will carry Texas but wonder at the margin.

My husband's family in West Texas are all Bush haters. The Dallas/Ft. Worth area where I am is mostly Republican.

20 posted on 09/24/2004 7:44:43 AM PDT by TXLady
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no


21 posted on 09/24/2004 7:44:45 AM PDT by eyespysomething (Idealism is fine, but as it approaches reality the cost becomes prohibitive.)
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Oregon definately going W. Made calls last night 25 excited W votes and 3-4 Kerry votes.

Pray for W and Our Troops

36 posted on 09/24/2004 8:10:46 AM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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This is a predictable effort which we spoted on FR long before the bounce.

Candidate School 101 is ALWAYS CLAIM THE MOMENTUM in YOUR direction.

It is a propaganda tool.


If kerry is abandoning states, then claim the race is tighening in kerry favor.

IT is a tool nothing more.


50 posted on 09/24/2004 8:40:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! NOV 2, 2004 is VETERANS DAY! VOTE!)
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The stepped-up attacks, and the false bravado should be taken for what they are.... strategy.

So sad, Kerry has strategy while his opponent has strategery!

55 posted on 09/24/2004 8:49:15 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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