Posted on 09/21/2004 4:47:21 PM PDT by Henchster
Shortly after the 2002 election, after watching the cadaver Lautenberg easily win after Torricelli had been way behind, I realized that assault on democracy, which well call the Torch Lighting, was simply a dry run for the real thing in 2004.
Everyone knows Hillary wants to be Queen, and not just of New York. Yet even Hillary the Vain knows she cant survive a year-long campaign, either her mouth or her past would catch up to her, and that would be the end of that. No, she needs a dramatically shortened campaign season to be successful.
How amazing that first Howard Dean and the other Dem hopefuls go down in flames, and Kerry, whose own campaign was on verge of collapse in December, rises up to be the nominee.
How convenient that Kerry emphasizes his brief Vietnam history, as flawed as it is, to focus his attacks on President Bushs Guard service. And yet, he flip-flopped from being for the war when he seeking the nomination, to being against it, and attacking the President on his Iraq War policy.
How ironic that Kerrys own service record falls apart under scrutiny, and his own campaign gets caught in a forged military records scandal.
These are NOT coincidences. Behind the scenes, for the last four years, the Clintons have been charting the course, picking the players, setting the policy, and tracking the results. When Dean looked poised to run away with the nomination, the Clintons whispered into the ears of fatcats in smokey back rooms that maybe they should get on the Kerry wagon, and Dean was gone faster than you could say YEEEAAAARRRGGGHH! Remember though, it wasnt the Dean-Scream that caused his plunge, the scream was the result of the Clinton influence that worked the least-liked, most wishy-washy, dopey, overly nuanced dork of the whole bunch from worst to first. Even Kucinich had more gravitas.
And now, the Clintons are ready, and in the perfect position, for the biggest power-play of their lives. The Torch Lighting of Kerry has started, and it will only be days before you begin to hear the grumblings of the liberal masses that Kerry is a loser, and maybe should be replaced. Once the media even starts to talk about the story, Kerry is French toast, and the move to replace Kerry with Hillary will be all but complete, with just the coronation speech to cap it off.
Heres my comment in August on the following post. Its worked out so far, and theres no reason to believe the Clintons would stop now:
1) Next week, RNC convention and very Presidential speech net Bush a 10 point lead in some polls.
2) Sep 5-15. Kerry continues to flip-flop, and get caught in more lies about his Vietnam "service."
3) Sep 15-25. Media covers Kerry implosion 24/7. Dems panic, launch "Torricelli Switch" trial balloon.
4) Sep 25-30. Kerry, under pressure from every side, drops out for X reason. (X = health, family, ?whatever dumb thing Kerry thinks of?)
5) Oct 1. Hillary "drafted" by Dems, makes droning "Ya know" speech. Liberal media go nuts, 24/7 Hillary love fest begins.
6) Month of Oct. Hillary gets clobbered by Bush in debates - liberal media still oozes Clinton DNA over her "Strong performances."
7) Nov 2. Hillary wins by narrow margin as liberal precincts around the country report record turnout - 150-200% in some cases.
Don't laugh, she's running THIS year. Everything is perfectly aligned, just as the Clintons have planned it since January 2001.
Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
9 posted on 08/26/2004 10:27:43 AM PDT by Henchster
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OK, things are going precisely as they have planned it, so what can us Freepers do to wreck this train before it even leaves the station?
Get the word out. Tell your friends, relatives, and especially, any news types you know. We need the story that Hillary is waiting to replace Kerry to be out there BEFORE it happens. That eliminates the media excitement factor to a degree.
Keep our eyes open for signs. Signs of a candidate in such deep trouble, hes starting to inflate the life raft.
Signs like:
Campaign stop or fundraiser cancellations. Post these ASAP and imply that Kerry is dropping out and will be replaced by Hillary any moment now.
Associates distancing themselves from Kerry. Like Edwards has already done! Michael Moore made some comments on how Kerry is a loser, but theyre stuck with him, so they need to make the best of it. Comments like that are just one short step away from abandonment.
Dont be complacent that Hillary cant win. Shell get virtually every vote that Gore got in 2000, plus a few female Bush voters who will vote for her just because shes a woman, and dont forget that vote fraud, theres no way theyll mess up again like they did in Florida by spiking the Buchanan hole instead of the Gore one.
Hillary's name will not be on the ballot. Period.
It requires 50 separate Toricelli-Lautenberg capers,
with assured success only in one state: NJ
> The hard part for the DEM party is to obtain a majority
> of the electoral votes.
Agreed, but for the sake of speculation, let's assume that
what the DNC always wanted was to run a
"candidate to be named after the election who is not Bush"
Suppose, on 30 Oct, Kerry announces that due to a flare-up
of his old cancer, he cannot serve, but vote for him
anyway, and the DNC, via their "democratic" process, will
choose a replacement for him after the election.
He could name the replacement, or not. It hardly matters,
as the promise is entirely unenforceable.
> If that happens, the candidate can be changed between
> the November election, and (IIRC) six days before the
> date in December when the electors cast their ballots
> for the persons to become president-elect and
> vice-president-elect.
As long as we're in tinfoil hat land, let's take in all
the sights.
Somebody grab that crack pipe before....
As long as they're knocking off their own, should we really care?
Nice post but...Hillary will replace KERRY, Edwards will still be the VP candidate, HILLARY will be the Presidential candidate
Somebody's been stealing your stuff!!!
I'm not going to argue with you. Believe what you want. I've actually looked at the laws. Anybody can, it's free, and it's fun.
Wallowing in fear? I think not, I'm going to fight the witch to the end to make sure she NEVER occupies OUR White House again.
Go back to your needlepoint.
So much for our "tough", "calm", "cool" conservative men. Flash a pic of Hillary at them and they run away, screaming for their mommies.
> I'm not going to argue with you.
I'm not arguing, just asking.
I see the ballot games as insurmountable, but I'm unclear
on the games that could be played after the election but
prior to the convening of the Electoral College.
I agree. Don't forget Ockham's Razor-the philisophical and scientific rule that simple explanations should be preferred to more complicated ones, and that the explanation of a new phenomenon should be based on what is already known.
Let's look at at what is already known.
The Clintons will do what they like, when they like, as much as they like, for as long as they like to whom they like or dislike. Nuff said.
CLINTON, HILLARY RODHAM | ID: P00003392 |
Office Sought: | President |
Election Year: | 2004 |
State: | Presidential Candidate |
District: | 03 |
Party: | DEM (Democratic Party) |
Hillary's a smart witch, not a dumb one. She didn't run this year because she thought she'd lose. If she ran now in this mess, she'd lose. Hence, she'll wait till '08 when she thinks she'll have her best shot at it. Right now she's quietly cackling as Kerry implodes, taking Edwards with him.
She cannot even get on the ballot in most states and nobody in the DNC or RNC has enough pull to overcome each and every state legislature that Hillary would have to win in order to have a chance.
Now, the question is, I think, an open one if something tragic were to befall kerry. In this instance, I do not what would happen if something bad happened about 2 weeks before November 2. That is an interesting question. hmmmm.
Ann Coulter/Laura Ingraham ticket.
Oh yeah, remember New Jersey. That exact thing happened there.
Nice post, thanks. I was looking for that after I got the flamethrower treatment here.
You intimated I was "wearing tinfoil."
I see the ballot games as insurmountable
You are incorrect on that count.
I'm unclear on the games that could be played after the election but prior to the convening of the Electoral College.
Hench, thanks, you're a fast reader!
I think Hillary! comes in as a VP candidate to come in under the radar so to speak. When in the WH--God forbid--she will assert control.
Your theory about her taking the top spot--which befits the Queen--is equally valid.
Interesting scenario, but even under those circumstances her chances of winning would be remote at best. How many independent voters -- especially those who generally aren't terribly interested in politics -- are going to vote for a candidate whose name isn't even on the ballot?
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