Posted on 09/21/2004 4:47:21 PM PDT by Henchster
Shortly after the 2002 election, after watching the cadaver Lautenberg easily win after Torricelli had been way behind, I realized that assault on democracy, which we’ll call the “Torch Lighting,” was simply a dry run for the real thing in 2004.
Everyone knows Hillary wants to be Queen, and not just of New York. Yet even Hillary the Vain knows she can’t survive a year-long campaign, either her mouth or her past would catch up to her, and that would be the end of that. No, she needs a dramatically shortened campaign season to be successful.
How amazing that first Howard Dean and the other Dem hopefuls go down in flames, and Kerry, whose own campaign was on verge of collapse in December, rises up to be the nominee.
How convenient that Kerry emphasizes his brief Vietnam history, as flawed as it is, to focus his attacks on President Bush’s Guard service. And yet, he flip-flopped from being for the war when he seeking the nomination, to being against it, and attacking the President on his Iraq War policy.
How ironic that Kerry’s own service record falls apart under scrutiny, and his own campaign gets caught in a forged military records scandal.
These are NOT coincidences. Behind the scenes, for the last four years, the Clintons have been charting the course, picking the players, setting the policy, and tracking the results. When Dean looked poised to run away with the nomination, the Clintons whispered into the ears of fatcats in smokey back rooms that maybe they should get on the Kerry wagon, and Dean was gone faster than you could say “YEEEAAAARRRGGGHH!” Remember though, it wasn’t the Dean-Scream that caused his plunge, the scream was the result – of the Clinton influence that worked the least-liked, most wishy-washy, dopey, overly nuanced dork of the whole bunch from worst to first. Even Kucinich had more gravitas.
And now, the Clintons are ready, and in the perfect position, for the biggest power-play of their lives. The “Torch Lighting” of Kerry has started, and it will only be days before you begin to hear the grumblings of the liberal masses that Kerry is a loser, and maybe should be replaced. Once the media even starts to talk about the story, Kerry is French toast, and the move to replace Kerry with Hillary will be all but complete, with just the coronation speech to cap it off.
Here’s my comment in August on the following post. It’s worked out so far, and there’s no reason to believe the Clintons would stop now:
1) Next week, RNC convention and very Presidential speech net Bush a 10 point lead in some polls.
2) Sep 5-15. Kerry continues to flip-flop, and get caught in more lies about his Vietnam "service."
3) Sep 15-25. Media covers Kerry implosion 24/7. Dems panic, launch "Torricelli Switch" trial balloon.
4) Sep 25-30. Kerry, under pressure from every side, drops out for X reason. (X = health, family, ?whatever dumb thing Kerry thinks of?)
5) Oct 1. Hillary "drafted" by Dems, makes droning "Ya know" speech. Liberal media go nuts, 24/7 Hillary love fest begins.
6) Month of Oct. Hillary gets clobbered by Bush in debates - liberal media still oozes Clinton DNA over her "Strong performances."
7) Nov 2. Hillary wins by narrow margin as liberal precincts around the country report record turnout - 150-200% in some cases.
Don't laugh, she's running THIS year. Everything is perfectly aligned, just as the Clintons have planned it since January 2001.
Be afraid, be VERY afraid.
9 posted on 08/26/2004 10:27:43 AM PDT by Henchster
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OK, things are going precisely as they have planned it, so what can us Freepers do to wreck this train before it even leaves the station?
Get the word out. Tell your friends, relatives, and especially, any news types you know. We need the story that Hillary is waiting to replace Kerry to be out there BEFORE it happens. That eliminates the media excitement factor to a degree.
Keep our eyes open for signs. Signs of a candidate in such deep trouble, he’s starting to inflate the life raft.
Signs like:
Campaign stop or fundraiser cancellations. Post these ASAP and imply that Kerry is dropping out and will be replaced by Hillary any moment now.
Associates distancing themselves from Kerry. Like Edwards has already done! Michael Moore made some comments on how Kerry is a loser, but they’re stuck with him, so they need to make the best of it. Comments like that are just one short step away from abandonment.
Don’t be complacent that Hillary can’t win. She’ll get virtually every vote that Gore got in 2000, plus a few female Bush voters who will vote for her just because she’s a woman, and don’t forget that vote fraud, there’s no way they’ll mess up again like they did in Florida by spiking the Buchanan hole instead of the Gore one.
I'm with the posters who say that IF it was going to happen, it would have happened at the convention.
Let's get back to talking about other stuff than Hillary and the supposed coup.
I'm so embarrassed...
We're in Time Magazine and people will click on FR and see this nightmare of a thread.
The actual measurement of Freeper Hitlery commentary is 17.65% tinfoil, 58.16% Right-On, and 24.19% the-jury-is-still-out.
I agree with you Sam..not going to happen in anyone's wildest dreams. She's going for it in 08. Republicans are just going to have to come up with a very attractive candidate to run against her. I believe you're from MA and I think Mitt could be a real contender.
There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their States. Some States, however, require electors to cast their votes according to the popular vote. These pledges fall into two categories -- electors bound by State law and those bound by pledges to political parties.
Which States bind electors to popular vote results? Refer to Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges to find out.
The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties' nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called "faithless electors" may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector. The Supreme Court has not specifically ruled on the question of whether pledges and penalties for failure to vote as pledged may be enforced under the Constitution. No elector has ever been prosecuted for failing to vote as pledged.
Today, it is rare for electors to disregard the popular vote by casting their electoral vote for someone other than their party's candidate. Electors generally hold a leadership position in their party or were chosen to recognize years of loyal service to the party. Throughout our history as a nation, more than 99 percent of electors have voted as pledged.
Wait a minute....I take offense......I don't believe Hillary will take Kerry's place!
< /self-deprecating humor >
I vote for Ann Coulter to run against Hillary in '08.
I think you're forgetting something. The nation, itself, is tending Republican. And you'd get a HUGE Republican turnout that would overwhelm the fraud if the Hillary-switch were pulled in October.
Remember, too, that Hillary Clinton is disliked on a scale matched only by Kerry. The LM seem to believe they still control people's thinking. But they increasingly only control the thinking of their own, and a few lazy voters. A whole lot of people literally don't watch or read them, anymore. And you have to factor that in. After the Emmys, at least up to the election, I suspect a lot of people will tune out LM tv, period, except maybe for sports.
Well he's letting his extreme fear of Hillary to cloud his rationality.
And I always thoguht conservative men were tough. It sickens me to see grown men wallowing in their fear of this woman.
Well he's letting his extreme fear of Hillary to cloud his rationality.
And I always thoguht conservative men were tough. It sickens me to see grown men wallowing in their fear of this woman.
Henchster, as farfetched as it seems, this has been a pet theory of mine, and others on FR, for a very long time.
We here in NJ were shocked that our own election law was discarded to allow the cadaver Lautenberg to be on the ballot in 2002. It happened at the beginning of October.
And he won.
This was at a time when it looked like we would have a Republican Senator from NJ--Forrester.
Folks say that this is tinfoil. Well, how do you explain he Clintonistas being brought on to run the Kerry campaign.
Because they care about Kerry? Because they care about The Democratic Party?
Heck, the Clintons ARE the Democratic Party. Nothing happens without their input and control. Viacom, which publishes their stupid fictional autobiographies through their subsidiaries, owns CBS. CBS, the network that just tried to torpedo the President and influence the outcome of a Presidential election. Hmmmmmmm. Coincidence?
Anything could happen at this point. It is clear that Kerry will not last as a viable candidate past the first debate.
There has been a seachange in the voters since the beginning of August, and they are waking up to what is going on.
If Kerry implodes, or his campaign is neutralized through this imbroglio about the TANG memos, Hillary! is poised to blushingly come on the scene to save the day.
Even if she loses, it will absolutely cement her as the 2008 Demon candidate.
How could she get on the ballot? In all fifty states?
Well, what happened in NJ? The argument was: WE MUST HAVE TWO CANDIDATES FOR THE SENATE ELECTION!
The truth was, we had five candidates running for Senator, and the Demon dropped out. That left four candidates.
Our Supreme Court unbelievingly
ignored a standing law about inserting new candidates within 50 days of an election, all for the greater good of having two candidates from the major parties.
All Hillary! and the Demons have to do is shout long and hard enough, with the Hollywood left and the wackos and the media in concert that we MUST have a Demon candidate(if Kerry is removed)for the election to be valid.Edwards might move up to President and Hillary! the VP slot.
Congress and the Supreme Court will be involved, and the upshot will be that Kerry/Edwards's name will stay on the ballot, but Edwards/Hillary! will be the stand in for the votes of the electors to the electoral college.
This can happen. This, coupled with the massive voter fraud which will be mobilized by the Demons in the inner cities as they did in 2000, will make this a contested election to say the least. With a favorable media to Hillary's candidacy regardless of the rule of law,(compare the Swiftboat Vets co-ord controversy vs. the silence of the Old Media on The CBS/Lockhart co-ordination) it is not such a stretch to see the impetus behind making this happen.
In my heart of hearts, I want Bush to win over Kerry by at least 10 points so we can shut the Demons up for a awhile.
But the positioning of the Clinton team at the head of the Kerry campaign at this late date is not be accident.If, by some miracle of vote fraud Edwards/Hillary! wins, expect Hillary! to assume the reigns in the White House in about two years. She then finishes Edward's term, and is then allowed to run in 2008 and 2012 on her own, for at least a ten year run(Poor Edwards will be removed by some "problem" around 2006). Then look for Hillary to consolidate her power like Putin is doing now in Russia due to a national emergency. Then only a second American Revolution will return freedom to this Republic.
It is not over--the fat ankled lady has not sung yet.
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this is not even funny.
this is not even funny.
You are correct. It's just like those seminar black helicopter/bilderberger posters that FR encouraged to go elsewhere several years ago.
But it's so much fuun to speculate... Like watching a horror movie at night to scare yourself.
Many people--particularly those of us in the military at the time--could not imagine her lying, corrupt, draft-dodging husband as the CIC, yet that's what the American people gave us. Not once, but twice.
I don't have as much faith in the American people any more. Most are sheeple that have been brainwashed over the past fifty years by the Liberal-controlled schools, the Liberal-controlled "journalism," and the Liberal-controlled media.
You give Hilary Clinton WAY too much power. Bill Clinton is a dumb ass too when it comes to anything other than lying.
John
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