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Live Thread: Rather's Latest Apologia on CBS Evening News
CBS Evening News - Dan Rather

Posted on 09/20/2004 2:31:16 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

According to the CBS News web site, tonight's CBS Evening News will address the latest developments in Rathergate.

Let's pile on.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blablablablather; cbsnews; danblather; danscam; napalminthemorning; pajamahadeen; pajamaratti; rathergate; rathernot; seebs; seebsnews; stainedbluememo
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To: xlib
...all the DNC has to do to replace their nominee is have a majority of the 400 some-odd members of the national exec committee vote in a newbie. So we could have a repeat of NJ '02, when a well managed republican campaign is rendered moot by a last minute switcheroo.

switcheroo, b*tcheroo!!!

Yeah, a "newbie" who is already popular, requires no introduction or major campaign, is understood and hailed as a hero(ine) by the the rat masses... now who could that possibly be?

401 posted on 09/20/2004 4:41:34 PM PDT by Murph
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To: tapatio

I've read some of his columns, but don't think I've seen Shales in action before. Is he the worst, wimpiest, most liberal media Kool-Aid drinker you've ever seen?


402 posted on 09/20/2004 4:41:37 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: TomGuy; governsleastgovernsbest
TomGuy, according to Howard Kurtz today on CNN, CBS only had the documents for 5 days before they aired them. They rushed to air.

From me, one more time: On tonight's broadcast, Rather said "we went to Burkett, he did not come to us". That clearly means it was Mary Mapes who approached Burkett and asked him, "pressured him" for the documents she had obviously heard about. CBS is not disclosing who put Mapes onto Burkett's trail, but my guess is she got her tip from Max Cleland.

And contrary to what Dan Rather said on tonight's broadcast, there are no original documents for him to find.

Yo! this afternoon as Rush ended, I listened to ABC Radio news, 3 pm EST. The female newsreader said, (almost a quote): Today AP asked Max Cleland about the forged documents, and Cleland said he could not take questions without first going through the Kerry campaign hqs. I don't think that implies guilt on the part of the Kerry campaign, but it surely does show what a short leash they keep Max on. They must have issued the order after he stupidly talked to a reporter over the week-end, disclosing that he had spoken to Burkett by cell telephone back in August.

I think it's hard to know at this point whether Burkett is protecting his source for the documents, or he created the documents, doesn't want to risk being prosecuted for forging government documents, so he lies and said someone gave the documents to him. Hard too, to know if CBS is playing like they actually believe Burkett has an original source because they want toprotect Max Cleland, or they don't want to have to admit they were so eager to hurt Bush that they trusted documents they got from a a red flag like Burkett.

And for the record..Dorothy Rabinowitz is making fools outta Tom Shales, Chris Matthews, and David Gergen! She's got more brains in her little toe than they have in their 3 big heads.

403 posted on 09/20/2004 4:41:55 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@The Mainstream Media Took A Fatal Blow....From CBS.com)
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To: VRWC_minion

bump to read more later!


404 posted on 09/20/2004 4:41:57 PM PDT by meema
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did you hear that stupid Tom Shales from The Washington Post? He was insinuating that the Bush Administration planted this story and that Rather wouldn't lie but George W. Bush WOULD! Man, my blood pressure is up!


405 posted on 09/20/2004 4:42:17 PM PDT by Wait4Truth ("There is nothing complicated about supporting our troops in combat!" - GWB)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Oh, thank you! I was beginning to think I was the only one (briefly) watching that idiot Tom Shales. I really dislike personal comments about appearance, but his kindred-spiritness to Michael Moore is just too strong to be ignored.


406 posted on 09/20/2004 4:42:24 PM PDT by Amore (Go, Swifties, go!)
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To: WVNan; Bush gal in LA
Who is going to watch over the United Nations for possible corruption?

It's not the UN (though some Dems did demand that at one time. See Deroy Murdock, A Necessary Shaming:

The State Department has invited representatives of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) to monitor this fall's election.

I think I've read they've done it before, but I can't remember where I saw it.

407 posted on 09/20/2004 4:42:56 PM PDT by maryz
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To: VRWC_minion

Part of me agrees, but I'll bet the farm that Robin Rather is in this up to her neck -- one reason Papa is still basically stonewalling. If she comes clean and names names, then we stop the ad hominem attacks. Agreed?


408 posted on 09/20/2004 4:43:13 PM PDT by hershey
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To: drdemars
The Judge at Fox News (legal adviser) stated that forgeries unless done to extract money are not prosecuted. And, if so, five years penalty both State and Federal.

I don't have one moments doubt that money would of found it's way into some peoples hand if this had worked out like they wanted. The root all all evil is the love of money.

Money was coming from somewhere.

409 posted on 09/20/2004 4:43:25 PM PDT by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: tdadams

'What I saw was Dan Rather trying to send the message that the memos are indeed real, but they just can't prove it. '

maybe Damned Rather is just so befuddled and out of it by now, that the very simple technology that proves the forgery beyond the shadow of a doubt is simply beyond his comprehension.

He is like Uncle Billy,(Thomas Mitchell), in "It's a Wonderful Life" after he lost the bank's money, bumbling around, useless, spent.


410 posted on 09/20/2004 4:43:28 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: bootyist-monk
Kerry is already finished :~)

sw

411 posted on 09/20/2004 4:43:41 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Shales looks as if he's been taking estrogen replacement therapy."

Heh!

Quite frankly, Shales appears as though he/she/it is the missing link between genders.

412 posted on 09/20/2004 4:43:44 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Is he the worst, wimpiest, most liberal media Kool-Aid drinker you've ever seen?

He absolutely is!

413 posted on 09/20/2004 4:43:48 PM PDT by tapatio (Society is always taken by surprise at any new example of common sense.)
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To: Biblebelter

Agreed, and Brit Hume brought up the same point.


414 posted on 09/20/2004 4:45:35 PM PDT by hershey
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To: rolling_stone

Just for fun could we see a side by side of John Kerry's and Jerry Killian's signatures?


415 posted on 09/20/2004 4:45:43 PM PDT by aloysius89 (Kerry lives in kuckuckwolkensheim. And so does Dan Rather.)
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To: tapatio; All

Question-who on earth is this idiot Tom Shale I just saw on MSNBC? Other than what my eyes can see,that he's a blob of lard with a mouth that opens to lie. Oh my God,is he on drugs or something??? He just flatly stated that "Bush lies and Dan Rather doesn't" or something like that. He looks like the human version of rotten egg salad or something,completely gross and disgusting,and so arrogantly deceitfully partisan,to say the least,that I can't believe that he writes for a so-called MS newspaper!


416 posted on 09/20/2004 4:45:44 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Bahbah
That Burkette deliberately lied to CBS about the source of the documents to protect the confidentiality of the true source raises more questions than it answers.

As you state, there was DNC coordination with the cBS story. Then there is Carl Cameron FNC saying Kerry was telling reporters to watch the 9/8 60 minutes broadcast.

It was one big setup to get Bush. We aren't halfway to the truth ... yet.

The good news is that the kitty litter book and the abu-grab book sank like rocks. They were simply more logs on the fire.
417 posted on 09/20/2004 4:45:48 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: colorado tanker

I don't know about the terminology but a freeper posted a Kerry document side by side with a legitimate Bush document yesterday and the formating was the same. I'd like to know what the Texas Army Guard formatting was like. Mrs PD


418 posted on 09/20/2004 4:46:29 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: BobS

'What does a woman's eye say?'


they're very unlikeable "scumbags" as teresa heinz likes to say...personally, I wouldn't have used that term, but since she is a very fashionable, intelligent, multilingual person (she can say 'scumbag' in 5 diufferent languages!), well, I guess just this once I could call Damned Rather and Burkett (and Teresa) scumbags.


419 posted on 09/20/2004 4:46:45 PM PDT by bitt ("I'm Mad as Zell, and I'm Not Going to Take It Anymore." (CongressmanBillybob))
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To: LowOiL

changing an election based on fraud is enough of a motive/gain for me.

I think Burkett told them to authenticate the docs to try and get him out of being a co-conspirator..WHO and WHEN did he get the documents from? CBS still has not ansered either of those two questions.. Burkett said the first source was in the Guard,- so if the docs were supposedly destroyed WHEN were they obtained and where have they been all this time, Did VCBS vett the original source Burkett gave4 them? Was he unimpeachable? How could he be? if he really didn't give the docs to Burkett?


420 posted on 09/20/2004 4:47:48 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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