Bad Day At Black Rock
Posted on 09/20/2004 12:32:22 PM PDT by zencat
A video posted Monday on a Web site showed the beheading of a man identified as American construction contractor Eugene Armstrong, a killing purportedly carried out personally by key terror suspect Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
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I agree completely that our desire in WWII was to win. As a historian, no doubt you are aware that WWII had its share of politics--not only from the left, but within the military itself. Patton believed he could have ended the war early on several occaisions, but Eisenhower was committed to his "wide front" strategy. Point being there are always plenty of views on how to achieve the final objective. Your post brings a salient point, that our War on Terror should look more like WWII than Vietnam. I agree completely. I would argue that if Truman had the weaponry available we do today, he may have prosecuted the war in Japan differently. His objective wasn't to kill as many people as possible, it was to force Japan to stand down.
I thank Truman for being brave enough to drop the first nukes. But we shouldn't be so enamored of the violence certain tactics make available. Our purpose is to defeat terror, not to create a big body count. To destroy terror, we must destroy the regimes that create it. Again I say cut as wide a swath as necessary, but no more. Vengeange on the enemy, yes. Vengeance on people who may not be our enemy does us no good.
But don't you understand, Islam is a religion of peace. the President says so, so we must play with kid gloves.
Terror is a verb, it can not be defeated. Try radical Islam (Islam) it can be defeated.
Kerry should be publically called on, by The White House, to stop undermining the war effort. It should be pointed out to him, openly, that his statements are harmful to the men and women serving in Iraq, and he should please consider this before he speaks.
This should make him feel awkward about continuing down this treacherous course.
Who has control of San Francisco?
Tombstone and Dodge City were beyatches too.
We've had 4 presidents assassinated. The Brits burned down our White House. We had a Civil War with 550,000 deaths.
We survived Vanilla Ice and Yanni.
Give Iraq some time.
Agreed, as I mentioned on an earlier post. I would narrow your target, though, to the specific regimes that sponsor terror. If it ends up being every arab government, so be it.
"he should please consider this before he speaks."
He once again manages to tear into troop morale like Nam. His yellow stripes fall through the freedom of speech.
Yeah, makes me want to puke. Maybe they can get Kerry to dedicate it.
should I look?
You'll need a strong stomach for this video.
To all: Next time you run across a Kerry voter (and if you don't know any, get outside your circle and make some friends), ask them if they've watched a beheading video.
They will answer "no", but encourage them to view one and ask them to think about "evil" and what it means to them and their vote in November.
A small percentage of them will say that Bush actually made these monsters do what they did. If you can resist the urge to behead them, inform them that they clearly have issues with reality and morality and that they are unfit to be your acquaintance. Ask them to say hello to the assassins in Hell.
A reasonable number of well-meaning bleeding heart libs will see with clarity, after finally getting a dose of what they cannot see on 60 minutes. They will be forced to confront a world in which there is real evil. This may rattle them into believing that that if there is real evil, there may also be real good. Be prepared to explain that good people exist, and many live right here in America. Explain also that many more serve our country and the cause of a greater good for all of humanity by fighting evil. Ask them who they think will do a better job fighting evil; George Bush or John Kerry.
This video serves as a clear reminder to me, and I hope it does to all of you too, the incredible significance of this election.
I'm sorry, and not meaning to be flippant in this most serious matter. However, I think the Islamonazis are counting on a Kerry win, and, of course, the US policy will change to engage Iraq in a more "sensitve" manner.
I believe this is a maneuver to push the American public to vote for Kerry and the the US out of Iraq.
I know my logic may be seriously flawed ... I'm tired (lack of sleep due to pain) ... but I'm also sick of this. But for me it's more of an incentive to ensure that W is landslided back to the WH and a strong message to be sent to these pukes that our resolve has neither wavered nor softened.
We weren't fighting the "people" of Nagasaki and Hiroshima either. We were fighting the Japanese leadership and one way to stop the Japanese leadership was to show them that we were capable and willing to anihiate Tokyo.
By nuking Faluja, we would send a forgotten message to the Islamofascists. We are willing and able to vaporize any city in any Islamic-controlled region to achieve victory.
Problem is, how do you fight an enemy who wants to die?
Answer: Oblige him.
Nuke Faluja. Assume the collateral damage and don't apologize when the UN threatens us with a sanction. We can live without Perrier and Brie.
Put the entire Arab-Muslim world on notice that they can either be a religion of peace or a religion of pieces.
Bad Day At Black Rock
This is a horrible thing these animals have done, and as others have said, my prayers for all 3 of the murdered mens families.
Now as to the response to it. I am against the nuke em all crowd. I don't think that its appropriate to kill all the sheep, simply to get at the wolves.
Now I'm not entirely rational about this right now myself. So while I hesitate about nuking them, I would at this point be willing to blow up a mosque everytime another hostage is beheaded. Lets start with mosques in falujah, then other cities like it. Moving on to places in Iran. Maybe it is merely my own anger at these animals who do these things, but I am more in favor of blowing up a mosque, every time another hostage is murdered. Since these dirtsacks want to make this about religion, fine, make it about religion. Let all the people know that when innocents are murdered that they lose another holy site.
If that isn't acceptable, and I admit I may think better of it after I've had some time to cool down. Perhaps find the families of these terrorists. Israel has a policy of bulldozing the house of the families of terrorists. Perhaps simply shoot the families of terrorists. Give em a reason to be upset. On second thought maybe my first idea was better.
Sadly, numbers 3 and 4 could apply to just about any society, it seems.
"There's the things you know. And the things you don't know. Also the things you know you don't know." - Rummy
I trust the President, his advisers and the World's greatest ever military professionals. I have no choice. The situation, as they say, is "fluid". I know President Bush's wisdom and heart and intelligent agenda, I've seen Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Meyers and Pace and allies like Blair, Allawi, Berlusconi and Karzai et al in action, and they have my proxy. It's that simple.
I don't trust the agendas of clinch-butted demagogic coots on FR.
It's not a problem. Your answer proves as much.
how do you fight an enemy who wants to die?
Answer: Oblige him.
Correct. We're unwilling to die at their hands, but they're willing to die by their own hands (or bombs). Let them kill themselves. For those who're so bloody keen to die for Allah, we can assist just as Jack Kevorkian would. Or we can send him if he's still willing to help kill people. His earliest release date is in June 2007.
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Today's beheading video is here...Sick Bastards!!!!!!!!
ftp://69.44.154.225/upload_here/amraky.WMV
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