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Hurricane Ivan -- Thursday 9/16 thread [Landfall!]
NWS/NHC, various | 9/16/2004

Posted on 09/15/2004 7:38:29 PM PDT by lainie

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To: valleygal

So glad to hear your father is ok. My husband's uncle lives in mobile home in Slocomb, AL. They wouldn't leave and come to our house. Wanna know why? Miniature horses! I think they have 6 or 7 and they are part of their family. I believe DeFuniak's out of danger now, continued good wishes for your Dad.


621 posted on 09/16/2004 8:02:17 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Chemist_Geek

Hey, you're either part of the solution or part of the precipitate, right?


622 posted on 09/16/2004 8:03:39 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (No, I didn't, but I know a guy who did.)
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To: spectre

I used to live down the beach from Navarre in the early 70's when there were hardly any homes there. An absolutely beutiful place. Dad told me it was hit hard during Opal.


623 posted on 09/16/2004 8:03:52 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Pyro7480

Good gravy.

I'm sorry - but if I'm sick and tired of these bloody things, and I've only gotten minimum residuals from them, I can only imagine how horribly exhausted the folks in Florida are.

SHEESH.


624 posted on 09/16/2004 8:04:16 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Gabz

Well, that part of living on Florida. They either learn to live with it or leave. Hurricanes cannot be stopped.


625 posted on 09/16/2004 8:05:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: valleygal

Thanks.

The bridge washing out was never even a consideration to me. The more I think about it the more damaging this is to the entire community.


626 posted on 09/16/2004 8:06:01 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (No, I didn't, but I know a guy who did.)
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To: Pyro7480

The Tornado Watch has been shifted and extended, reaching northward through most of Georgia, and time=wise, running through 9P ET.


627 posted on 09/16/2004 8:06:26 AM PDT by mhking
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To: valleygal

The picture posted earlier shows the truck. A new image at the paper's website has a better view. From what I can see, the cab is over the edge of a damaged section, but still attached to the trailer. The trailer has partially come apart as well. I don't have high hopes for the driver, based on what the picture shows.

I'd like to know who went out there to check on him.


628 posted on 09/16/2004 8:07:54 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: mhking

Has anyone heard of damage or conditions in the little town of Summerdale AL? This is about 17 miles north of Gulf Shores. My company has a warehouse there for golf course chemicals and fertilizers. I wonder if it is still standing?


629 posted on 09/16/2004 8:08:55 AM PDT by CobraJet
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To: CobraJet

Haven't heard -- I'm watching WMBB-TV out of Panama City via ABC NewsNow, and they haven't mentioned it.


630 posted on 09/16/2004 8:09:34 AM PDT by mhking
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To: valleygal

Glad to hear you talked to dad. Being mad is a good reaction, IMO.


631 posted on 09/16/2004 8:10:19 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: AppyPappy

I agree with you.

I've got family in Sarasota, they've been there since the early 70s.


632 posted on 09/16/2004 8:12:26 AM PDT by Gabz (Hurricanes and Kerry/Edwards have 2 things in common - hot air and destruction.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Something else that occurs to me. I'm assuming that the photograph shows a section of the bridge on the west side of the full span, and that the methods of construction are the same across the full span. If so, there is likely to be additional damage to both directions beyond the hump east of the main channel where we can't see it, and where no-one has yet been able to report on. An earlier poster said there was damage at both ends. meaning that it will take weather good enough to permit aerial recon before the full scope is understood.


633 posted on 09/16/2004 8:14:22 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Eagle Eye

All major roads leading into Escambia County from Florida have suffered major damage causing a delay in getting 1,000 Army National Guardsmen and additional support help into the area. The I-10 bridge connecting Santa Rosa and Escambia and US 90 between the counties are closed because of storm damage.

"We are waiting for the bridges to reopen to bring everybody in." said Icilda Andres, with the Florida Army National Guard.

The eastbound extension of Bayfront Parkway, between Chase street and 14th avenue, has been washed away, said Pensacola Police Chief John Mathis. All four of Escambia County hospitals suffered major damage. Baptist Hospital emergency room was not operation as of 8 a.m., officials said.

The round-the-clock curfew was in effect until further notice. "All we are saying is for all residents to stay off the street," Larry Smith, Escambia Sheriff Chief Deputy, said.

"You can go outside, check your house, and do some maintenance, but stay off the street," Smith said.

http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/blogs/stormteam/


634 posted on 09/16/2004 8:18:22 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: exhaustedmomma

Yea, he spends so much time with his horses that he put a phone in the barn. He shored up the barn better than the house. :)


635 posted on 09/16/2004 8:19:00 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: Hunble
I have always wanted to go diving in the Cayman Islands. From what I have read tonight (from multiple sources), I will never visit that island.

I dove the Caymans one trip. I wouldn't go back there until things get back to normal, and the reefs will likely be debris-cluttered due to Ivan for a couple of years, too: but it's still one of the great dive spots in the world. Though I didn't get there (it's an all-day trip from Cayman Brac, which I did dive), Bloody Bay Wall on Little Cayman was rated one of the top 10 diving sites in the world. Most Cayman wall drop-offs start at 60-80 feet; Bloody Bay Wall starts at 30 feet.

What is Bloody Bay Wall?

I didn't try to view the high-resolution mural, but if you've got time it might be fun.


636 posted on 09/16/2004 8:19:07 AM PDT by cogitator
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Thanks, but I will go to Cozumel for my next diving trip.

Besides, the cost is much lower and the natives are friendly.

637 posted on 09/16/2004 8:21:55 AM PDT by Hunble
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To: Quilla

Isn't that funny? My dad call's his horses his kids.

Where's Slocomb? I looked in the atlas but the print is so dang small I can't even see it with my glasses! I hope they're OK.


638 posted on 09/16/2004 8:22:22 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: exhaustedmomma; Valleygirl
He has a phone in his barn

Nothing at all unusual about phones in barns. There's computers in barns here in Iowa.

It's all about access to the outside world from the workplace.

639 posted on 09/16/2004 8:25:56 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Proud to be associated with pajama wearing news gatherers)
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To: BurbankKarl

The key is the establishment of hardened facilities for groups such as Red Cross, FEMA and NG to operate from, located in town. There must be a degree of confidence that the first reponders, as well, can function, therefore a hardened command center and deployment capability for the PD and FD. This has been a real instructive thing. I would imagine that far too few people in NO realize just how much they have dodged a bullet this time around. Just a couple degrees less of a turn to the north, and this might have been a far different event than it has been.


640 posted on 09/16/2004 8:26:04 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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