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Nuclear bomb possibly found (Unarmed Device dropped in ocean off Georgia during Cold War)
CNN ^ | 9/13/04 | CNN

Posted on 09/13/2004 7:15:02 PM PDT by gutshot

Device dropped in ocean off Georgia during Cold War WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Government experts are investigating a claim that an unarmed nuclear bomb, lost off the Georgia coast at the height of the Cold War, might have been found, an Air Force spokesman said Monday.

The hydrogen bomb was lost in the Atlantic Ocean in 1958 following a collision of a B-47 bomber and an F-86 fighter.

A group led by retired Air Force Lt. Col. Derek Duke of Statesboro, Georgia, said in July that it had found a large object underwater near Savannah that was emitting high levels of radioactivity, according to an Associated Press report.

...... Smolinsky said if the bomb were found, a decision would have to be made about whether to try to recover it or leave it where it is. .....

The 7,600-pound, 12-foot-long thermonuclear bomb contained 400 pounds of high explosives as well as uranium.

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The United States lost 11 nuclear bombs in accidents during the Cold War that were never recovered, according to the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

An estimated 50 nuclear warheads, most of them from the former Soviet Union, still lie on the bottom of the world's oceans, according to the environmental group Greenpeace. ......

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: blam; coldwar; georgia; history; newbie; nuke
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To: bellgreenkid

It will be interesting to see if China obtains an ever growing presence in Mexico.


21 posted on 09/13/2004 7:21:00 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: bellgreenkid

And this has what to do with this thread? Oh, maybe you are confused new member 9/12/04???


22 posted on 09/13/2004 7:21:21 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: Boundless

Andrei, you've lost ANOTHER submarine?????


23 posted on 09/13/2004 7:21:26 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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To: bellgreenkid
One day on the job and you're highjacking thread subjects???

DNC must be paying you minimum wage

24 posted on 09/13/2004 7:21:52 PM PDT by Popman
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To: gutshot

In Savannah here. I have heard this story all my life, and, have gone swimming in the area. I have yet to see any mutants swimming around or even glowing in the dark.


It is time for this to be found yes....


25 posted on 09/13/2004 7:22:06 PM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: bellgreenkid

Don't know if this is true or just an old wives tale but I believe I was told that The American Flag can only be made in the USA. Has anyone else heard of this rule?

NS


26 posted on 09/13/2004 7:22:24 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: bellgreenkid

"senior trade official strongly suggested that the Bush administration will limit imports of Chinese clothing "

This is gteat news. Thanks for posting it, newbie, but it seems to be misplaced. Watch out for the kitties.


27 posted on 09/13/2004 7:22:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: gutshot

>>>Government experts are investigating a claim that an unarmed nuclear bomb, lost off the Georgia coast at the height of the Cold War, might have been found, an Air Force spokesman said Monday.

CLAIM? What CLAIM? This has been KNOWN for YEARS! Yes, there are more sources I have and you can find in Google than Pravda, it was just the first return I posted.

15:04 2001-08-15

ATOMIC BOMB DROPPED BY US BOMBER NEAR GEORGIA US STATE COAST

US bomber has dropped an atomic bomb near to US shores, which is 100 times more powerful than that one dropped on Hiroshima in 1945. The bomb has fallen on sea bottom, at the distance of 10 km from Georgia State.

Its exact location is not known, -The Australian- writes declassifying 40-year-old secret documents of Pentagon. According to the newspaper, the bomb -Marc 15- which weighs 3450 kg was dropped from bomber B-47 Stratojet in 1958, after its collision with fighter F-86 during training flights near to Sylvania. Major Howard Richardson piloting the plane received command-s order to drop the bomb, otherwise he could not land.

?After three unsuccessful attempts were made, Pentagons letter to Atomic Energy Committee chairman reports, the pilot dropped the bomb into water near to mouth of Savannah River. No detonation was registered-¦

Bomb -Marc 15- reposing on the bottom near to Tybee Island was searched for 10 weeks for, though without any success. According to the documents, the searches were finished after another, hydrogen, bomb was accidentally dropped near to Florencia Bay, in South Carolina.

At that time, trinitrotoluol load detonated, though atomic warhead did not burst. Therefore the search group was immediately sent to the new accident place, and it did not returned to Tybee island.

Pentagon officials are assuring of the bomb being not dangerous, if it is not touched (according to the report, its removing from ocean would last 5 years and would cost to US budget 23 million dollars). The bomb reposes under 6-metre thickness of water, buried in sand at a depth of 5 metres.

Meanwhile Georgia citizens demanded to guarantee their security, to what the militaries answered the bomb could not detonate, because an important detail has been taken away from it v Plutonium capsule which links trinitrotoluol load with warhead.

Though the state-s population becomes more and more panic-stricken, and in such circumstances the situation will not be controlled soon. According to some reports, all the bombs used while training in 1957-1959 were loaded. And besides, a former US pilot-s letter to US Congress reports, that the bomb is ?a completely fighting weapon¦-


28 posted on 09/13/2004 7:22:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (NUTCRACKER IN CHIEF.)
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To: Boundless
Because they know they lost a nuclear weapon in area. If I remember correctly it may be a hydrogen bomb...
29 posted on 09/13/2004 7:23:38 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Peach
Boy, did that headline scare me! You can say that again!!! I don't know if moving it is such a good idea. I'm no expert, but is there a danger in the thing going off if somebody messes with it?
30 posted on 09/13/2004 7:24:01 PM PDT by rdl6989 (<fontface="Rather Not">)
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To: gutshot

USAF RECOMMENDS LEAVING SAVANNAH BOMB UNDISTURBED

7/11/2001 - WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Today the U.S. Air Force announced its recommendation to leave undisturbed the unarmed bomb jettisoned off the coast of Savannah, Georgia in February 1958. The bomb will remain categorized as irretrievably lost.

Air Force officials consulted the U.S. Navy, the Department of Energy (DOE), and the Savannah District U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to investigate the details surrounding the incident, the current condition of the bomb and associated hazards. Each agency studied these areas independently. It is the collective opinion of all four agencies that it is best to leave the bomb undisturbed.

Since there was no nuclear capsule on board the aircraft there is no possibility of a nuclear explosion. The findings also determined that if left undisturbed, the explosives in the bomb are not hazardous to the public. However, the explosives could pose a serious hazard to recovery personnel and the environment if disturbed by a recovery attempt.

Additionally, the Air Force is concerned that the destructive nature of the search and recovery operation would cause unacceptable short and long-term environmental damage to the area and could cause irreparable damage to the Floridian aquifer, which provides drinking water to the region.

Based on the data collected, the Air Force believes it is in the best interest of the public and the environment to leave the weapon undisturbed. A copy of the report is at: www.af.mil/lib/savannah.pdf. For more information contact the Air Force Press Desk at 703-695-0640.



31 posted on 09/13/2004 7:24:04 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: gutshot
That headline really amped up the pucker factor...

I hope they did find it -- I've heard this story since I moved to Georgia ten years ago. Even if it's inert, they need to get that thing outta there.

32 posted on 09/13/2004 7:24:16 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Prime Choice

Tybee GA is not the only place we have a broken arrow.

FWIW.

AND those locations have shown up on intercepted translations.


33 posted on 09/13/2004 7:24:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (NUTCRACKER IN CHIEF.)
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To: gutshot
The tritium is all gone by now, (short half life, other problems.) So, without a zipper, it probably wouldn't go fusion, just fission.

Might be a heck of a high tide, though.

Gives a new meaning to the phrase, "storm surge."
34 posted on 09/13/2004 7:24:21 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Kill all Islamic terrorists now. Then they cannot kill our sons and daughters tomorrow)
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To: gutshot

Cripes. Pulse rate through the roof here!


35 posted on 09/13/2004 7:25:15 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: rdl6989

I don't know but imagine the people who need to know, do :-)


36 posted on 09/13/2004 7:25:30 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Calpernia
Tybee GA is not the only place we have a broken arrow.

I know. Aren't there at least 10 others?

37 posted on 09/13/2004 7:25:47 PM PDT by Prime Choice (The Log Cabin Republicans AREN'T.)
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To: Napoleon Solo

Based on the fact I have seen pictures of terrorist assholes burning the American flag, I would think that may be a urban legend.


38 posted on 09/13/2004 7:26:16 PM PDT by Popman
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To: Boundless

Because that was the coordinates we have had for years as a 'broken arrow'.

We have had only NOW to retrieve it since it has shown up in terrorist communications.


39 posted on 09/13/2004 7:26:19 PM PDT by Calpernia (NUTCRACKER IN CHIEF.)
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To: nuconvert; Admin Moderator
The Mods are quick in cleaning up ugly DNC spills in the Isles. Not only has the Isle been cleaned, but the clumbsy tourist has been tossed out on his Keester, as well :-)

THX AM :-)

40 posted on 09/13/2004 7:26:22 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says He Can Do a Better Job of Implementing President Bush's Policies :-))
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