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AP stands by its story about anti-Bush SEAL (Freeper Travis McGee mentioned)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 9/13/04

Posted on 09/13/2004 1:43:11 PM PDT by ambrose

about anti-Bush SEAL

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Monday, September 13, 2004



ELECTION 2004
AP stands by its story
about anti-Bush SEAL

Man with Muslim name doesn't come up on search of elite sailors


Posted: September 13, 2004
4:06 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

An Associated Press reporter is standing by his story that describes an anti-Bush veteran as a former Navy SEAL in the face of questions about whether or not the man was in fact a member of the elite unit.

The reporter, Elliott Minor says the Albany, Ga., man, Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

In a story reporting the reactions of U.S. military personnel and veterans to allegations that President Bush failed to perform to National Guard standards, Minor quotes several current and former military men. Here is an excerpt from the AP story:

Ahmad Majied of Albany says the latest allegations about Bush's military record are more troubling to him than allegations about service honors leveled at Democratic challenger Kerry.

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.

"He had enough money to get what he wanted," Majied said. "I think his main concern was not to go to Southeast Asia. I bet he never dreamed it would come back to haunt him."

After reading the account, Travis McGee, a poster on FreeRepublic.com, contacted an organization called AuthentiSEAL, which researches claims by people posing as Navy SEALs, to see if Majied indeed had been a SEAL. According to his post, McGee received a response from Gregory Platt, an investigator with the group, saying the name Ahmad Majied does not come up on a search of former SEALs.

McGee says he became suspicious of the claim when he read that Majied had been in Vietnam for five years.

"When this fake SEAL's claim of spending five years in Vietnam was pointed out to me, I knew he couldn't be for real," he writes at Free Republic. "SEALs deployed to VN for six month tours, so 'five years in Vietnam' seemed highly improbable. I knew lots of multiple tour 'real deal Vietnam SEALs' during my peacetime duty in the teams in the 1980s, and I never heard of this guy.

"This only took a couple of minutes time for 'amateurs' on Free Republic to check out. The 'professional' journalists at the AP must have been to busy to do this basic checking."

In an interview with WorldNetDaily, however, Minor says he has no reason to disbelieve Majied's story.

"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

The AP reporter addressed McGee's criticism of spending five months in Vietnam, saying Majied told him he was based in the Philippines and would go to Vietnam for short stints and then return to the islands.

"Altogether it was probably five years [in Vietnam]," Minor said.

Minor spoke to Majied this afternoon to try to verify the issue, and he said the veteran has refused to speak to other media about the issue.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Internet bloggers challenging the claims of mainstream media outlets has become more prevalent recently. It was on the Net where the first questions were raised about National Guard memos CBS News claims show that Bush's former commander, Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian, was resisting pressure from his superior, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, to "sugarcoat" Bush's officer evaluation files.

Document experts and amateur sleuths began questioning the memos' authenticity within hours after they were published on the Internet, citing typographical and formatting issues that suggest they were created by a modern-day word processor rather than a Vietnam War-era typewriter.

Despite the irregularities of the memos and the fact that a source CBS used to prove its case is saying the documents are forgeries, network anchor Dan Rather stands by the story he presented on "60 Minutes II" last week.

Related stories:

Bush Guard papers forged, says source

Rather backs docs on Evening News

Ben Barnes' daughter: Father lied about Bush

CBS News denies Bush docs forged


Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.



TOPICS: Free Republic; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ahmadmajied; ap; associatedpress; congrats; elliottminor; fakeseal; fakeseals; majied; medialies; mediots; minor; poorjournalism; seal; seals
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To: RonDog; Howlin

Might pass this one along, another example of blatant MSM bias.

AP again this time.


161 posted on 09/13/2004 3:14:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: daybreakcoming

whoops - wrong thread - had three threads open. sorry.


162 posted on 09/13/2004 3:16:08 PM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: ambrose
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

The vet has received "nasty calls" since the issue has been publiclized, Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Hmmmmm, I see. This is a fine standard on which to base factual reporting.

And he "knows" the "vet" has received "nasty calls" because the "vet" told him so in his peaceful voice?

BEAM ME UP

163 posted on 09/13/2004 3:16:35 PM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I agree. He's probably homeschooling his children in Jihad Studies.


164 posted on 09/13/2004 3:17:19 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

Yep, he is probably brainwashing his children in Isalamo hatred of America with Jihad in America all day.


165 posted on 09/13/2004 3:21:25 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop lying to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Mystic

Just have to find his shipmates and get the scoop on old sneaky, got Rolex and dagger will travel Maji.


166 posted on 09/13/2004 3:21:39 PM PDT by Leisler (Kerry, release your Department of Defense SF 180)
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To: rit
Probably not this Ahmad since he shows service from 1963 through 1966 (3 years)

Ahmad Majied
2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574
MACM 1963-66 ref

Don't go by that.  MACM is Master Chief of some sort, and you don't get there in three years.   The Majied in question is also a Master Chief, so that's probably him.  The 1963-66 is what's out of place.
167 posted on 09/13/2004 3:22:10 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: siunevada
The guy would have had a colonoscopy..if he'd of popped off about John Heinz Le'Kerry.

I've researched buying a monkey wrench better than this Clymer reporter did this story.

FRegards,

168 posted on 09/13/2004 3:22:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (NO....!! I'm madder than ZELL...and I'm NOT going to take it anymore..!!!)
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To: ambrose
There's a peace about his voice."

Well..that's just FINE..!!

I've heard tell...Charlie FREAKING Manson has a real "peace" in his voice too..!!!

ARRRRRRRKKKKGGGHHHHH..!!! These guys tick me off..!!!!

169 posted on 09/13/2004 3:24:33 PM PDT by Osage Orange (NO....!! I'm madder than ZELL...and I'm NOT going to take it anymore..!!!)
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To: ambrose

So, as I understrand it, they found ONE navy SEAL who doesn't like Bush. And he's a muslim. WOW!!! Stop the presses.


170 posted on 09/13/2004 3:24:37 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: ambrose

The real story here seems to be that phony war heroes, like apparently Mr.Majied, are lining up behind one of their own in this election cycle.

Might be a key demographic this year for Kerry as according to the authentiseal website, phony "seals" outnumber the genuine article by at least a 20 to one margin.


171 posted on 09/13/2004 3:28:04 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: lonster

His opinion is not the issue. He is entitled to that in any case.

His truthfulness about his status/position is being challenged. There is a great deal of difference. If he is who he claims to be ther is no reason for nonresponsiveness/coverup.


172 posted on 09/13/2004 3:28:51 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Ditto

I'll bet the AP guy did find out his name and checked online to find out the guy wasn't a SEAL. Betcha this is a cover story.


173 posted on 09/13/2004 3:28:57 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I have the "personal file" on Lt Bush. Shhhh, don't tell anyone.)
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To: ambrose
I was a secret astronaut for NASA in the glorious 70s!
But that was before I changed my name and I can't tell you what it used to be.
But I did get four purple hearts!

: )

174 posted on 09/13/2004 3:34:38 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: Travis McGee
Like I said, I could claim to have made moon landings, "under another name."

Excellent point.

The media has had no problem calling other islamics by their American names -- those who've collaborated with the Taliban on the battlefield, those who've engaged in espionage and sedition against the US, etc.

Why does the mainstream media hate america so much?

Because, like JFKerry, they are internationale socialists.

175 posted on 09/13/2004 3:38:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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To: Travis McGee
" It's not up to us to disprove the liar is lying. It's up to the liar to prove he's telling the truth."

I don’t agree. It is not up to every person who says that he is something to prove that he is, unless of course his claim is preposterous. (The alternative is a kind of social fascism.)

To harass this guy over a claim by AP that he already told me (and I told you) was misreported would be seen as tyrannical. It would be counterproductive.

I told you. He didn’t say that he was a Vietnam SEAL for 5 years. He said that he was in Vietnam for a total of more than 5 years and that he was a SEAL there. If you continue to argue with him for what he didn’t say, it discredits you (and us).

176 posted on 09/13/2004 3:39:31 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: ambrose
"I really trust this guy," he said. "I believe he's a real straight shooter."

Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name, "and I didn't press the matter."

Minor says, adding, "This is a very peaceful guy. … There's a peace about his voice."

Minor says Majied homeschools his seven children. "These are really upstanding people," he told WND.

He said of the Majieds: "I've met them around town, and they're just nice people. … I just really think a lot of him."

Whattt?! So since he likes the guy it doesn't matter if his story is a bunch of b.s.? Con artists usually are nice guys so that proves nothing. This reporter is just a total liberal shill. Some of these news organizations are going to come out of this election with absolutely NO credibility left (as if they have any left now).

Ahmad Majied, doesn't show up on lists of former SEALs because he changed his name when he converted to Islam after leaving the Navy.

So, what was his name before he changed it and does it check out to be authentic? I didn't see it mentioned in the article.

177 posted on 09/13/2004 3:41:03 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: elfman2

Majied, a Democrat from Albany who served 30 years in the Navy, including five years as a SEAL in Vietnam, said the memos support his belief that Bush was a "playboy" during his service years.


178 posted on 09/13/2004 3:42:16 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Mystic; ambrose
"...Minor says Majied didn't give him his previous name,..."

"...Majied, Ahmad 2710 Cambridge Road, Albany, GA 31721-1574 229-431-1144 MACM 1963-66" ..."

So this supposed former 30 year Navy SEAL, who is currently living in Albany, GA and home schooling his kids, decides to change his name and happens to pick the same name as another Navy Vet who was not a SEAL but who lives in the same city, just coincidence.

Some one should give ol' Ahmad a call and sort this out.

179 posted on 09/13/2004 3:43:23 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: Grampa Dave
"Old Ahmad Majied is probably a lot closer to being an Iman Black Muslim al Fuqar instigator than being a former Navy Seal."

Agree. . .what 'Mosque' does he belong to; and is the FBI checking him out - if not; they should be; perhaps. . .

It remains unblievable; that no one even attempted to check/verify; or even ASK; his birth name. . .

180 posted on 09/13/2004 3:44:52 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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