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1 posted on 09/11/2004 7:51:30 AM PDT by rocklobster11
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Rather is an arrogant, biased clymer who needs to be put out to pasture. He looked awfully nervous reporting such lies. Address the fact that General Staudt retired in '72 a year before the letter was written in '73.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 7:55:19 AM PDT by Lady GOP
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Nice job.


3 posted on 09/11/2004 7:56:34 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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I'm thinking of printing this and faxing it out to CBS. Should I? Should ALL OF US?
4 posted on 09/11/2004 7:58:30 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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WOW!
5 posted on 09/11/2004 7:58:35 AM PDT by syriacus (Kerry lied, while honorable men died. Benedict Arnold REALLY was a war hero before he was a traitor.)
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An EXCELLENT treatise bringing reality back to the forefront!


7 posted on 09/11/2004 7:58:52 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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Dan Rather's stand
By Wolf Blitzer
CNN

http://cnn.usnews.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=CNN.com+-+Dan+Rather%27s+stand+-+Sep+10%2C+2004&expire=-1&urlID=11603991&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2004%2FUS%2F09%2F10%2Frather%2Findex.html&partnerID=2004


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- This is not the first time Dan Rather has found himself in a serious dispute with a U.S. president.

There was this exchange in 1974 during the height of the Watergate scandal with then-President Richard Nixon:

Nixon: Are you running for something?

Rather: No sir, are you?

And there was this exchange with then-Vice President George Bush in 1988 over the Iran-Contra scandal.

Rather: I don't want to be argumentative, Mr. vice president.

Bush: You do, Dan.

Rather: No -- no, sir, I don't.

Bush: This is not a great night, because I want to talk about why I want to be president, why those 41 percent of the people are supporting me. And I don't think it's fair to judge my whole career by a rehash of Iran. How would you like it if I judged your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in New York?

Now, the 72-year-old CBS News anchor finds himself in yet another confrontation with a Republican president.

"I want to emphasize: I stand by my president. We are in a time of war, and I stand behind my president. There is not joy in reporting such a story, but my job as a journalist is not to be afraid, and when we come with facts, and legitimate questions supported by witnesses and documents that we believe to be authentic, to raise those questions no matter how unpleasant they are," Rather said Friday.

At issue is his report on "60 Minutes" that aired Wednesday -- a report that included documents purporting to show that the current President Bush, while serving in the Texas Air National Guard, did not meet all his military obligations.

"They [the White House] have not answered the question of did or did the president not obey or obey an order? Was he or was he not suspended for failure to meet performance standards of the Air Force? If he didn't take the physical, why didn't he take the physical?" Rather said.

But now, there are questions about the authenticity of the documents released by "60 Minutes."

The Washington Post says the "60 Minutes" documents are not consistent with other documents released by Bush's Air National Guard unit in the early '70's.

"If you compare the documents that CBS produced with the documents that we know to be authentic, that did come from Bush's National Guard unit, none of those documents use proportionate spacing. And that's only one of the anomalies," says the Post's Michael Dobbs.

Experts contacted by CNN say there are some inconsistencies in the type style and formatting -- noting those styles then existed on typewriters but were not common. They also say only a review of the original documents -- not copies -- can completely resolve the matter.

Beyond that, surviving relatives of Bush's then commander, Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, the author of the purported documents, insist they are fake. They say Killian always believed Bush was an excellent pilot and that he never wrote these documents. Killian died in 1984.

"The story is true. The story is true," Rather said. "The questions raised in the story are serious and legitimate questions."

Rather denies there is any internal CBS News investigation under way -- a statement backed by the network.

Rather also said the possibility of issuing any kind of recant or apology was "not even discussed. Nor should it be."


8 posted on 09/11/2004 7:59:24 AM PDT by stevek1
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I am impressed with the analysis. Keep up the good work as it WILL discredit the RATher "copies". However, the lefties are coming to the defense of RATher, CBS (Communist BS) etc. They do a reverse analysis of the analysis. What every one fails to centralize on, and this is not to knock what I see as an objective analysis here, are: 1. You cannot authenticate an original from a copy (You can discredit the original though IMHO) 2. Chain of Custody. Seems both items are missing in RATher's "story".

Added notes:. The lefties are here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/10/34914/1603

An exception to not authenticating an original from a copy applies to electronic copies (computer files) provided there is a chain of custody. Then the electronic copy is the same as the original.
13 posted on 09/11/2004 8:04:53 AM PDT by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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It used to be that the only place I ever saw clever animation was on The Wide World of Disney on Sunday nights ... Oh Frank you are soooo old ! ... but because we in FR have some of the finest patriots in America and many of them have devoted their lives to learning the technology that pays the bills, we have, without bias the kind of evidence that supports our suspicians regarding liars and the affirmation our innate intelligence tells us that we are right and 'they' are wrong.

I applaud the techies amongst us.

Y'll done good,

14 posted on 09/11/2004 8:05:08 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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17 posted on 09/11/2004 8:05:59 AM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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this Flash animation showing an overlay of MS Word ontop of one of the

 

Outstanding. Thanks for the link.

21 posted on 09/11/2004 8:09:04 AM PDT by Radix (...it is easier for logical men to appear barbarous than for barbarous men to appear civilized.)
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You're incredible!


24 posted on 09/11/2004 8:11:51 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (Anal sex is not a family value!)
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I want to see Dan Rather frog-marched out of BlackRock in handcuffs.
27 posted on 09/11/2004 8:16:48 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN FORGED KERRY!)
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By damn, these accusations have gotten my pajamas in a knot, and I ain't goen take it anymore.


28 posted on 09/11/2004 8:21:55 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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The whole problem with this will be the Sandy Berger Effect. The SBE means that a damning story erupts and simply gets ignored. That's what will happen here. It will be denied and soon ignored. Independent voters won't have a clue what went on, and all Rather has to say is that the challenges to his credibility are "partisan internet and talk radio" people, and the independent voter will understand that this is nothing.
So we must figure a way at FR not just to uncover this kind of thing, but to also carry it through to completion.


29 posted on 09/11/2004 8:22:34 AM PDT by Vinomori
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In addition, Killian's son has said that his father shared an office with another officer and one secretary, who had a manual typewriter, not even an electric typewriter, let alone a Selectric. That was the only typewriter in the office and Killian had no typewriter at home.


30 posted on 09/11/2004 8:22:52 AM PDT by Eva
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Did anybody listen to how Rathers voice sounded, Like he had been screaming all day


31 posted on 09/11/2004 8:25:37 AM PDT by Boazo
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The only question I have is could the "copying" of the memos being blown up in any way cause an offset on the line up?


32 posted on 09/11/2004 8:25:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Do you just think I fell off a turnip truck?)
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Any journalists or historians out there?

Has there been anything similar to this over the past 100 years?


33 posted on 09/11/2004 8:26:50 AM PDT by gipper81
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35 posted on 09/11/2004 8:28:09 AM PDT by itsamelman (“Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh.” -- Al Swearengen)
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You are just a partisan political operative.


36 posted on 09/11/2004 8:30:41 AM PDT by petercooper (All I wanted to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11-01.)
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