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BREAKING FROM HANNITY: CBS Producer in Dallas source of Documents
Hannity.com | 09/10/2004 | Hannity

Posted on 09/10/2004 12:47:25 PM PDT by WoodstockCat

Hannity just said a story will be filed later today that from sources inside CBS that the source of the documents is also the one who provided the Abu Grihab prison photos.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; badoom; cbs; killian; liarsanddamnliars; media; mediabias; mediashillsforkerry; napalminthemorning; rather; rathergate; selectricgate
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To: Cboldt
You've probably already seen this, but there are a lot of documents or supposed documents at http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/document.htm.

These may be different documents from what CBS has, but I bet there's a connexion.

601 posted on 09/10/2004 3:57:39 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: airborne

I am not trying to be funny.

John


602 posted on 09/10/2004 3:59:13 PM PDT by John_7Diamonds
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To: MineralMan

It seems that noone, no matter how talented, could have created these on an IBM Executive.
1. Time New Roman was not available on that machine, or any typewriter, per the font encyclopedia (Haas, I think it is).
2. Kerning.
3. Proportional line spacing.
4. The closest IBM font, Adjutant, when used to type these memos on an Executive (per a post I can't find), looks nothing like the forged CBS docs.

This approaches quibbling as you agree the docs are certainly forgeries, but I don't agree that the documents could have been created on an IBM Executive. I think you have agreed with the kerning issue, but I haven't seen you address the line spacing, the nonavailability of the font on typewriters, or the dissimilarity to Adjutant. We are completely agreed that the overlay is dispositive.

For my part, my original blanket statement that there was no proportional spacing on typewriters back in 1972 was obviously wrong, but I was still right that these are forgeries and I was right that these documents couldn't have been created on 1972 office equipment - maybe at that point I didn't know exactly why I was right. :)

I think the best explanation for the scenario is that CBS wanted to believe it so bad they did, even though they should have known better, or they just hate Bush so much they disregarded the red flags. Same w/ the DNC and the rest of the dems. That is a lot more plausible than Rube Golberg conspiracies with a triple fake shake and bake back somersault with a full twist.

Regards,


603 posted on 09/10/2004 4:00:22 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: deport

Sorry - I see now that you had posted that list of docs already.


604 posted on 09/10/2004 4:00:50 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: Khan Noonian Singh

Yah, I just got finished mining that site for a little more info - it appears that someone may have tried to "authenticate" the docs using that address. I'm looking a little further to see what's out there...

Great find!


605 posted on 09/10/2004 4:00:55 PM PDT by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: jbstrick

If this Mary Mapes is the woman I'm thinking of, she's originally from Sedro-Woolley, Washington, and once worked at KOMO 4, where she was the most blatantly-biased Left-winger working there.

Personally, I'm glad she's not here anymore...



606 posted on 09/10/2004 4:02:26 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Kerry's Campaign fell 12 stories, hitting the pavement like a Hefty bag filled with vegetable soup.)
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To: dandelion; deport

People should save these docs. They may disappear from the website, or even be subtly changed, at any time.


607 posted on 09/10/2004 4:03:03 PM PDT by Khan Noonian Singh
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To: steveyp

I searched on it too. I found a Ashland Oil box 34567 address in Houston. Also found a bunch to some place in Kenya. Kenya?? WOW, must be Kerry's girlfriend!

John

PS Just kidding about the girlfriend.


608 posted on 09/10/2004 4:04:29 PM PDT by John_7Diamonds
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To: spokeshave; mabelkitty; Radix; All
30. - May 4, 1972 "order" memo and the May 19, 1972 "commitment" memo typeface doesn't match the official evaluation signed 26 May 1972. Or does the TxANG have a new typewriter just for Col. Killian's memorandum ?

Apr 1972 Eval pp15-17

609 posted on 09/10/2004 4:11:28 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: John_7Diamonds

"I am not trying to be funny."


I guess I'm a little nervous about all of this, somehow, blowing up in our faces. No offense.


610 posted on 09/10/2004 4:12:35 PM PDT by airborne (2/504 PIR - 'Devils In Baggy Pants')
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To: airborne

I agree - this many hands digging up this much info can make the tunnel collapse...


611 posted on 09/10/2004 4:14:05 PM PDT by dandelion (http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Buckhead

Buckhead, you know the Executive typewriter was a dodo bird from the start. Expensive. Clunky. IMPOSSIBLE to correct mistakes. Impossible to get serviced. We had one in my office, but nobody wanted to use it. I learned how to use it (one of the few to do so) but we had if for less than a year because of all the problems. I can't imagine a National Guard office springing for such a white elephant. So although the technology did exist, it was not widespread enough to be probable within that milieu.


612 posted on 09/10/2004 4:24:56 PM PDT by Shazolene
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Some more info on the wonderful Mapes located at cnn.com

http://www.cnn.com/US/9910/29/dragging.death.ap.02/


613 posted on 09/10/2004 4:25:59 PM PDT by bazbo
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To: rintense

In Ratherland we only need a preponderance to smear the president.


614 posted on 09/10/2004 4:26:35 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: WoodstockCat
Hannity just said a story will be filed later today that from sources inside CBS that the source of the documents is also the one who provided the Abu Grihab prison photos.

I'd definately say that someone in the Pentagon should be up for some street justice after this. Or maybe just have his hands removed for fakes.

615 posted on 09/10/2004 4:34:29 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: cwiz24

Thats verry FUNNY! you know, Dan Rather is fond of those smarmy sayings we should start a line of these sayings as if Dan was commenting on the scandal...It would be a hoot!

Ill start,.... Dan: "Peter,(Jennings)..this scandal
is starting to stink worse than My grandfather's armpits on a 4th of July weekend"


616 posted on 09/10/2004 4:36:01 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: All

Sorry...I mispoke by saying I had a Selectric......I worked with a IBM "Executive" with proportional (right adjusting) spacing from 62-68....and mine wasn't equpped with "superscript".


618 posted on 09/10/2004 4:39:39 PM PDT by vista500 (Welcome all Vandals...I'll be waiting with my VISTA500!!)
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To: jbstrick

Wasn't Mary Mapes the "Journalist" who was at the pool in Iraq media hotel that foriegn journalist heard saying that She wished we would loose the War?


619 posted on 09/10/2004 4:42:00 PM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: WoodstockCat
Hannity just said a story will be filed later today that from sources inside CBS that the source of the documents is also the one who provided the Abu Grihab prison photos.

The real ones or the phony ones culled from porno movies?
620 posted on 09/10/2004 4:43:10 PM PDT by aruanan
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