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Text of memos about Bush suspension (AP claiming white house released forged docs!)
AP/Boston Globe ^ | 9/9/2004 | AP

Posted on 09/09/2004 12:42:25 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor

Text of memos about Bush suspension

By The Associated Press  |  September 9, 2004

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Here are the texts of four memos indicating George W. Bush was suspended from flying during the Vietnam war because he failed to meet Texas Air National Guard standards and did not take his annual flight physical as required. Copies of the memos were provided by the White House.

(Memos follow)

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: killian; lies; lyingliars
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To: DaveMSmith

Those records were his flight records and AP got them.

These memos came from CBS; they gave them to the White House before their program last night.


81 posted on 09/09/2004 1:10:31 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: DaveMSmith; Howlin

"The White House was complaining about how after they requested Bush's record more appeared with a FOIA."

The gist of this was, as I understood it, that the WH was not happy that, after it ordered everything released, it did not expect to learn that some things were not. Now, of course, it appears possible that these memos were not released because THEY DID NOT EXIST!


82 posted on 09/09/2004 1:11:01 PM PDT by Bahbah
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To: Zhangliqun

Agree with your comments. Everything about these documents stinks of forgery - beginning with the wording and the typography. Several former military officers have posted that the abbreviations and format are all wrong.


83 posted on 09/09/2004 1:11:12 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (www.swiftvets.com: where the truth lives on, after 35 years of Kerry lies.)
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To: Zhangliqun
Michael Medved is all over this on his radio show.

Said this will be the end of Don Hewitt at 60 Minutes and likely tarnish Rather forever.

He's going into the detail that he's obviously read about on the web.

84 posted on 09/09/2004 1:11:22 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Where is that?


85 posted on 09/09/2004 1:12:01 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: sinkspur

Didn't Hewitt retire earlier this year?


86 posted on 09/09/2004 1:12:33 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (John Kerry won't be happy until he's made us all as miserable as he is.)
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To: Bahbah

Again, those records the White House was talking about are the records that the Pentagon released to the AP in regards to their FOIA lawsuit.

These memos were "given" to CBS and they faxed them to the White House.

Anybody who has these documents got them from CBS because they are NOT in Bush's official file.


87 posted on 09/09/2004 1:13:36 PM PDT by Howlin (I'm mad as Zell)
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To: Zhangliqun

Good post, good info.


88 posted on 09/09/2004 1:13:54 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("The message of the Cross is foolishness to those who are perishing...")
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To: faithincowboys

I just think it's a little premature to call these forgeries. On other threads, most of the forgery claims - e.g., the non-availability of particular fonts before a certain date - have been disputed by one or more posters.


89 posted on 09/09/2004 1:14:06 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: EllaMinnow

I have no idea. I don't watch 60 Minutes and know nothing about it.


90 posted on 09/09/2004 1:14:20 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Can someone tell me where to find an ordained archpriest?"--Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: claudiustg
It looks like the Associated Press had a "Tom Hayes Moment".
91 posted on 09/09/2004 1:14:43 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Gingersnap

We now have the new name for the Kerry Campaign: FALTERGATE.


92 posted on 09/09/2004 1:14:48 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Right Wing Professor

A criminal investigation is needed to determine the source of the documents, as well as their validity or forgery. Dan Rather can take his documents and as tereza says shove it..

This is a real embarrasment to the media in the United States from CBS to all the followers who jumped on the story and tried to manipulate it. The old media is in its final death throes...what did it take, less than an hour for the documents to come under serious doubt last night?

I want to know who supplied the documents and who the supposed document examiner was that CBS suppoesedly had examine them

"Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/06/politics/main641481.shtml


93 posted on 09/09/2004 1:15:04 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Steve_Seattle

Go to Drudge.


94 posted on 09/09/2004 1:15:06 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Howlin; Right Wing Professor
Check out the documents in post nbr 67.

(To be honest, RWProf wrote it before I did, but I wrote my comment before reading his .... Serves me right for reading a thread from the bottom up! Now, let's see how we divide up the Ignoble Piece Prize for independent discovery of a fux fax number.)
95 posted on 09/09/2004 1:15:47 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Bahbah

This is dirtiest election ever run by democrats and that is saying something, these people are EVIL. Bush has tried to fight fair, but these liars, criminals, communists and blood sucking venim are the devils' own!


96 posted on 09/09/2004 1:17:07 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Bahbah; Howlin
Transcript:

White House Privately Furious? The White House is privately furious with Pentagon officials over how they've handled President Bush's National Guard records. As recently as February the president asked the Pentagon to release all of his service records, and records were produced.

But then a few months later, more records were produced, and the White House was assured that was all of them. Well, after a Freedom of Information Act (search) request from the AP, the Pentagon has now produced even more records.

And the White House, still unhappy with the last misstep, asked the Pentagon to release them to more than just the AP. But the Pentagon balked ... That is until a senior official forcefully reminded the Pentagon that it was the president who first requested the records' release.

97 posted on 09/09/2004 1:17:24 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN 'Buzzard' KERRY!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

To quote RR himself - it's amazing what you can get done if you don't care who gets the credit!


98 posted on 09/09/2004 1:17:48 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor (www.swiftvets.com: where the truth lives on, after 35 years of Kerry lies.)
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To: mabelkitty

BINGO!!!!!!!


99 posted on 09/09/2004 1:17:55 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: Right Wing Professor

I just read the text of the memos. The 2nd and 4th memos strike me as absolute nonsense. I can't, for the life of me imagine any commanding officer documenting something of this nature. A memo titled "CYA" should be a red flag to any sane person familiar with military documents. Also, the memno titled "Discussion with Bush . . . " also comes across as a forged document designed to fit certain manufactured events that the Dems have been claiming.

Given the very political nature of the military and the precariousness of memorializing such information in hard copy form, it is extremely unlikely that ANY senior officer having such "memos" would be placing his career in extreme jeopardy.


100 posted on 09/09/2004 1:18:05 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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