Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
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2. Report to 111th F.I.S. adminstrative officer for schedule of appointment and additional instructions. Examination will be conducted in duty status.
3. BTW, That young Dan Rather from CBS is one nifty dude!!!!!
OK, I found an IBM Composer and remember using one now. You had to type everything twice to make type come out justified. I guess you could have used it as a typewriter, but Gawd, why would you want to?
They don't have images of the fonts but the manual lists the special keys and it doesn't list a smaller "th" superscript.
http://www.ibmcomposer.org/SelComposer/Manual/toc.htm
Maybe they had the runaround that others have mentioned, turning the platen halfway and swapping for smaller font then swapping back, but why would anybody do that for an internal memo?
I realize the only way to prove it's impossible is find an old machine and try typing on it, or at least compare to Times New Roman and the typeface on the memos, which appear to be Times New Roman.
Based on content, this doesn't look like a CYA memo at all. Among other things, I have never heard of a CYA memo being captioned a "CYA" memo on the document itself. That would seem to defeat the purpose.
Further evidence that this was not written by an experienced officer.
>>Finally does anyone really believe that some document typed in the early seventies could be reproduced almost exactly by popping open Word and typing it out in the default 12pt Times font? So exactly that you could superimpose the documents?
No. I don't think any 1972 era typewriter, typesetting machine or dedicated word processor could produce a document that looked exactly like it was produced by Microsoft Word, using 12 point Times New Roman font and default formatting.
Lordy, I feel very old -- I used to use a safety pin or an old toothbrush to get the gunk out. (I tried a toothpick once, it splinterd) The younger folks don't know all the fun they missed! This thread has been great just to remember all the old equipment I thought was the bees knees at the time.
Have you been following this?
Thank you for the ping!
IBM Selectric Composer 1968
http://www.ibm.com/Search?v=11&lang=en&cc=us&q=selectric&Search.x=0&Search.y=0
I grew up using this machine.
No, but they will vote against a know liar and forger of documents. If these are proven a forgery, then it might get a few folks thinking that other documents not obtained directly from the military might also have forged elements in them. Hmm?
Does anyone remember if the term "CYA" was used way back when?
CYA has been used for a long time. Certainly since before the '70's.
Sometimes the old stuff suits the goal better than the new stuff and I just love it when I can get all three machines going at one time...like spinning plates on a stick!! Such a victorious feeling.
My siblings are all searching their "junk" for this machine. It's been a long time since anyone has seen it. We think the font wheel in question started with the letters UN-
The Dem media will likely just drop it and move on to a new piece of anti-Bush propaganda.
In the meantime, Kerry gets out of being questioned on his 20 years of reducing the Military to spitballs.
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There is NO WAY that the man that signed the first signed the second.
And the second guy looks like a Clintonoid (high sex drive) from the J loops
Keep up the good work!
Tell 60 Minutes what you think!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/01/06/60II/main27233.shtml
LOL! You are right! Isn't it great to be "right"? :)
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