Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign – a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidate’s credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the president’s military service – and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama…. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
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This is too freakin' funny. The Kerry campaign is turning into a circus of laughter. First of all, they've got a candidate that's no better than any wino I could pick up off the street, their campaign management is a train-wreck and now they go after a story nobody cares about with FORGERIES!, thus opening themselves up to further attack. I can't stop laughing. I hope all the Dem campaigns in the future are run like this one! Kerry's gonna get nailed for this.
I was wondering the same thing. And you know Killian's personal file would not be entirely composed of these four memos. Since CBS saw fit to expose these to public airing, perhaps they might be curious what else was in Killian's personal file. Actually, I'm sure they would not...But I am, now that they've opened this up.
I may be a *tad* overweight, but that's no reason to be rude. :o)
...thanks, Misty. ;^)
Then the secretary would have added her/his initials and the author's initials.
You need to prove these are real. There is no evidence that they are.
LOL! DNA!
Aside from the typeface discrepancy, Killian signs his name Lt Col (Not "Lt. Colonel") and the dates appear with a 3-letter abbreviation, as in 6 Sep 73 (rather than "18 August 73). Way too many discrepancies for someone who probably wrote reports and memos every single day as part of his commander duties.
It's just a (free) word processor. I happen to use Linux on my computers, and OpenOffice is the most commonly used Linux word processor (although it is also available for Windows).
I was looking at a blog where a guy had typed up one of the memos using Word 2003, and Times New Roman 12 for the font. It was close, but the ends of the lines were slightly off.
When I typed it using the same font in OpenOffice, the ends of the lines lined up exactly.
>>I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet (hard to keep up with it all)
There is an enormously obvious word-processing insert on this memo: http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust18.pdf
Where is says "Austin is not happy today either"
The "not happy today either" drops down to the next line and is in an easily obvious different font from the entire rest of the document
I posted earlier about 'e's with horizontal versus slanted crossbars, that's what shows up in what you just pointed out as well!! Howlin, this is a keeper too! This has been added!!!!!
**** Copied from another thread, thanks to a couple other Freepers. "Austin is not happy today either" has been added to the last CBS document (different fonts!!), so even if the other points (th, signature, proportional fonts, water mark, grammar, etc) are wrong, we at least know some tampering has occurred!!
The apostrophe is curly. My Selectric font, Premier Elite, which looks like Times Roman, has a straight apostrophe.
Oh, didn't see the superscript info.
*sighs*
Been bouncing about the thread trying to keep up!
Thanks!
My IBM Selectric doesn't do "th" superscripts. And the typefact that looks like Times Roman has a straight apostrophe, not a curled one.
"On the Executive, you could optionally have removable type-bars. "
Yup. This feature allowed IBM to offer the Executive in various languages, and in special versions for specialized fields.
If I remember correctly, all the type bars on the Executive could be exchanged for others, which made the machine very flexible. IBM was very good at that sort of thing.
I do know that the one I used had characters for superscript "th" and "st" It probably also had "rd" and "nd". I suspect that was a fairly common option, since it would help documents have that typeset look.
The Executive was a pretty common unit, particularly in legal offices, small publications, etc. My hometown church had one for the secretary. She used it to create the bulletins.
Almost every typewriter I've personally seen had superscript 'th' on a key, but the 'th' was stylized and slanted, not merely superscripted 'standard' font.
Yesterday I heard that the WH was fuming because the Pentagon had not released all of the records from the file when they were told to do it months ago. Instead, they have been dribbling out.
Also, in looking back over Bush's records that have been released, I noticed on a few documents "1stLt" was used so perhaps that issue should not be pursued. I would not like to see an issue made out of something like that only to find out that legitimate documents were sometimes done in the same way.
I have an IBM Selectric I use for typing forms. It isn't capable of lining up the baseline so precisely, but it IS an old machine.
However, it also can't type a curly apostrophe.
BMP
Yes, it might be good for Drudge to wake up first! :)
My question: Is the military that competent or fast to receive the request one day and approve it the next? Just asking.
My son is in the Guard and it took several weeks to get a simple question answered.
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