Posted on 09/09/2004 7:33:57 AM PDT by TastyManatees
New Questions On Bush Guard Duty
CBS) The military records of the two men running for president have become part of the political arsenal in this campaign a tool for building up, or blowing up, each candidates credibility as America's next commander-in-chief.
While Sen. Kerry has been targeted for what he did in Vietnam, President Bush has been criticized for avoiding Vietnam by landing a spot in the Texas Air National Guard - and then failing to meet some of his obligations.
Did then-Lt. Bush fulfill all of his military obligations? And just how did he land that spot in the National Guard in the first place? Correspondent Dan Rather has new information on the presidents military service and the first-ever interview with the man who says he pulled strings to get young George W. Bush into the Texas Air National Guard.
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But 60 Minutes has obtained a number of documents we are told were taken from Col. Killian's personal file. Among them, a never-before-seen memorandum from May 1972, where Killian writes that Lt. Bush called him to talk about "how he can get out of coming to drill from now through November."
Lt. Bush tells his commander "he is working on a campaign in Alabama
. and may not have time to take his physical." Killian adds that he thinks Lt. Bush has gone over his head, and is "talking to someone upstairs."
Col. Killian died in 1984. 60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
This happened BEFORE the UNITED STATES POSTAL SERVICE was created to replace the POST OFFICE DEPARTMENT. That happened on August 12, 1970.
We were still using the old stuff as late as 1973.
The infamous "they" also abolished the use of yellow note pads somewhere along the line.
Odds are a Reserve unit in 'bama used whatever paper could be found in a file drawer.
Re your comparison of type on post #101, do you have a comment on the evenness of the lines of type. Did the IMB selectrics have perfect horizontal agreement, as computers do? Or were their words 'wavy' with various letters not perfectly evenly hitting the paper like manual typewriters? Sorry, I cannot explain any better what I am asking.
Look, no one would go to the trouble and risk of forging these documents and then deliver -- nothing. I mean, what is the upshot of all this? These memos do not disagree in principle with what Bush ahs been saying all along.
It's more a conncordance of small clues, not a smoking gun.
BTTT!!!!!!!
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There must be a typo. Where's the GOLD STAR WITH COMBAT "V" from Hanoi Jane?
Oh, that is good for ruining my lunch! Dang!
That would make sense since two of the items were already public record:
The first memo ordering the physical
The third memo (on the CBS site) grounding him from flying
The second memo is Killian's personal notation of a phone conversation with GWB and the fourth memo is another personal memo to himself, neither of which would be expected to be filed in GWB's file.
My husband was in the AirForce and he made the same observation about the date.
Hmm, could this be why the Navy investigation is expanding? (Investigating who signed Secretary Lehman's with the auto-pen on Kerry's citation.) Perhaps someone else noted similarities as you have.
Great Freepin' work, everyone!
The first proportionally spaced typewriter was released in 1941 by IBM.
From the IBM History page:
1941 - IBM announces the Electromatic Model 04 electric typewriter, featuring the revolutionary concept of proportional spacing. By assigning varied rather than uniform spacing to different sized characters, the Type 4 recreated the appearance of a printed page, an effect that was further enhanced by a typewriter ribbon innovation that produced clearer, sharper words on the page. The proportional spacing feature became a staple of the IBM Executive series typewriters.
http://augustachronicle.com/stories/090904/let_1959613.shtml
Having worked for the USAF at the Pentagon for 10 years from 1977-1987, I have typed many a letter/memo for the record. One does not EVER put punctuation in rank abbreviation, as in Lt. Col - it is properly typed Lt Col or LTC. Also, we didn't have proportional spacing until early to mid 80s.
Thanks for clearing that up!
LMAO! I hope he makes a mistake on the ballot and votes for our guy! :)
OTOH, if the docs are a forgeries, hit CBS as hard & as often as possible.
I hope you're pinging Fox, Rush, et. al. - very interesting!
even in the mid to late 90s the military used typewriters for this sort of thing, half the memos in my service record are typed or handwritten.
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