Posted on 09/08/2004 9:16:02 PM PDT by Howlin
These are the NEW documents "discovered" by CBS with conjunction with their Ben Barnes expose/confessional tonight regarding George Bush's National Guard service.
They've gotten some interesting comments on the Live Thread, so I thought I'd give them their own thread so you people out there with the knowledge can dissect them for their accuracy/truth/existence.
Wow.....that is odd! But it's just a Google search I found to try to help isolate which IBM machine we were talking about.
Not only do orders have to be sent, but they have to be received. Even if true, if Bush didn't receive them, they are not meaningful. If he wasn't on duty the weekend following, then regardless of the nature of the documents, they are meaningless.
You know, somebody noted last night that there wasn't any place on those "memos" for Bush to have responded that he had actually received the order; is that what you're talking about?
Try this:
Open Microsoft Word or Open Office.
Set margins to default.
Set font to Times Roman 12 point (again, default).
Open or print out one of the memos and begin typing it word for word in your word processor.
Notice that all the page breaks will occur exactly where they do in the supposedly "authentic" memos created 32 years ago on a typewriter, and the exact same number of lines will appear in each paragraph.
An amazing coincidence, to be sure.
Museum of typewriter fonts (thanks, gilliam!)
http://www.selectric.org/selectric/index.html
That's a very good point. Rank always goes with name.
Now, try doing the same thing, but with a "linear" (non-proportional) font, like the kind ACTUALLY on the typewriters of the period. (Courier, for example.)
See what a difference a day makes?
Robert, I've been thinking today about WHY they would do this.
And this is what I have come up with:
The first sentence in the WashPost today:
President Bush failed to carry out a direct order from his superior in the Texas Air National Guard in May 1972 to undertake a medical examination that was necessary for him to remain a qualified pilot, according to documents made public yesterday.
Now that information is NOT in his file; it's from the memo.
Also I even heard Wendell Goler on Fox saying that the "files" indicate that Bush's superiors were not happy with his attendance, etc.
That also is NOT in his file, just in the memo.
From the Boston Globe:
"He didn't meet the commitments, or face the punishment, the records show.
From Drudge:
President Bush fell well short of meeting his military obligation in the Texas Air National Guard during the Vietnam War, the BOSTON GLOBE is planning to front on Wednesday, newsroom sources tell DRUDGE.
From the LA Times:
George W. Bush's squadron commander in the Texas Air National Guard grounded the young lieutenant from flying when he missed a medical examination and failed to meet performance standards, according to documents made public Wednesday that revived an issue that had shadowed Bush for much of his political career.
Four memos from the late Col. Jerry Killian, released Wednesday by CBS' "60 Minutes," suggest that Bush received favored treatment during a time in the early 1970s when many young men were being drafted and sent to fight in Vietnam.
***See it changes the discussion from IF he was AWOL, to his actual performance. Trying to make him seem like a slackard.
That's what I've come up with so far.
No, try doing it with an IBM Executive typewriter from 1972 using a Times New Roman ball. Apples and apples.
The font samples are irrelevant because they do not include Times New Roman for the IBM Executive (not a Selectric). Try to stop harping on the font and look for something relevant.
Especially if the supposedly "influence" peddling claims by a democratic hack politician Barnes (not yet even State Lt Gov. when this was supposedly written!) were the source of the "pressure?"
See, why would a "cover your ass" memo be written citing influence from a junior officer's (Republican) "dad" IF the influence were really coming from a (democratic) politician in Austin?
So, was Barnes lying last night when he said HE was the source of the influence, or was the writer lying in 1972 when "he" said that Bush's "dad" was the source of the influence?
If these docs really are forgeries, and CBS wasn't in on it, it'll be interesting to see what CBS does in regard to the person or persons who gave them these docs. Especially if there's a criminal investigation.
>>in 1975 I had an IBM Selectric that how proportional Times Roman serifed font.<<
According to http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/typewriter, IBM didn't produce a Selectric with proportional spacing.
Do you have any samples from anything written on that machine?
Microfilm or fiche stores an IMAGE of the original.
So fonts on the reproducing printer aren't an issue.
A font expert weighs in:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211248/posts
BTW, is FR slow for anyone else?
Where did all the trolls go?
They get asked a few hard questions and run away. sKerry - that you?
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