Posted on 09/08/2004 9:16:02 PM PDT by Howlin
These are the NEW documents "discovered" by CBS with conjunction with their Ben Barnes expose/confessional tonight regarding George Bush's National Guard service.
They've gotten some interesting comments on the Live Thread, so I thought I'd give them their own thread so you people out there with the knowledge can dissect them for their accuracy/truth/existence.
Anyone know how we can tell if these are "typewriter" fonts? I cannot tell but they do not look like typewriter fonts.
Good point. Those documents are absolutely forgeries based on the fonts alone.
The flight exams were and are called "Medicals", too... those forged documents used the incorrect term "physical examination."
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the only way i would think these were not real documents would be if someone on our side did it to make dan rather and the media look bad. something to get back at them for all the outrage over faulty intelligence regarding the niger yellowcake forgeries.
This is beginning to sound like the forged uranium documents. Many people said that they were obvious forgeries at first glance.
Not all typewriters, as I recollect.
The most popular unit at the time was probably the IBM Selectric. And, indeed, it employed a monospaced font.
Another IBM unit, the Executive, employed proportionally spacing (and was thus hell to correct, requiring perfect transcription). But, as I recall, it was a sans-serif face.
The typeface on these memos appears to be proportional, but it is also a serifed face (Times New Roman or a similar variant). So, I would doubt the machine was an IBM Executive.
This is what Courier font looks like, which comes from a typewriter. Those files were written on a word processor, because they don't look like this text.
Check out the documents on Scumbags Site and they look totally different then these ones.
Totally different font. Hey no black dots everywhere on them.
Just an addittion to others observations.
Still looking at them to find some great example
You know who scumbag is right? You know Skerry!
Split it up and send it a little at a time by many different people. If it is long they'll never read it.
Frontpage.com already did an excellent job of debunking this whole thing today... this jerk wasn't even Governor of Texas in 1968 (he was in 1969) when Bush went into the Guard and the Bush's weren't a prominent family in Texas at the time -- it was still a Democratic stronghold -- this guy is also linked to Kerry and is hoping for a spot in his cabinet -- go to frontpage and read it!
From the transcript:
60 Minutes consulted a handwriting analyst and document expert who believes the material is authentic.
No name.
But then there is this:
Robert Strong was a friend and colleague of Col. Killian who ran the Texas Air National Guard administrative office in the Vietnam era. Strong, now a college professor, believes these documents are genuine.
My sentiments exactly. I posted this on another thread an hour ago:
It seems easy enough to disprove. Find an authenticated version of Lt. Col Killian's signature and compare it to the proffered documents (it should be easy enough through probate records if not military records). These memos look fake to me. Would a fighter squadron, even in the ANG, have a PO Box address? Is it too much of a coincidence that the only two people referenced in the memo other than Bush (Killian and Harris) are both conveniently long dead? Etc., etc..
It seems a poor fake to me. Someone needs to take the initiative and prove it.
Could the source of these apparently poor fakes be someone in league with Bush? Give then some line, let the press run with it a bit, then set the hook by demonstrating it to be unequivocally a fake. It would discredit all attacks on Bush. In fact, it isn't a bad strategy - like the fake documents that discredited all the good intelligence showing an effort by Saddam to buy uranium in Niger. The good is thrown out with the bad. Maybe I should get out my old typewriter and start writing some "damaging memos?"
Are these documents copies of hard paper originals or are they from a microfilm? Many years have past, it seems that they could have been stored on microfiche and sent to a printer for a paper copy. Mind you, I have no idea of what I am talking about.
In the very early 70's, the military's state-of-the-art word processing was done on IBM MTST Composers. They used a monospaced font printing format but used the same "font balls" (about the size of ping-pong balls and had changeable font types) as the IBM selectric typewriters.
I know how to do it,but thanks. :-)
SO WHAT?
They impact nothing. Can you name a single person who voted for Bush based on his Guard record? Anybody? Can you name a single thing that can be done with 32 year old memo's? Anybody? Forget about it. The matter is irrelevent.
Dan Rather just proved once again what a low life he is. Actually, he is in so much pain now. You know it hurts to be on the losing end when you are such a die hard liberal. I did not watch him and I never will. I do not watch CBS.
One other note: What everyone SHOULD be doing is loudly protesting to the FCC over CNN keeping Carvel and Begala on the payroll.. heck even NBC canned Maria Schriver once she became first lady of California (true was mutual, but she received lots of pressure due to having a Republican husband).
Yes, I do.
And you make a good point.
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