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Terrorists Still Have Children Hostages (100 Dead, 400 Wounded)
Fox News | 9/03/04

Posted on 09/03/2004 8:23:01 AM PDT by kattracks

Fox is reporting that there are still terrorists in the buiding holding children hostage.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: arabmercenaries; beslan; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; chechens; childhostages; islamofascists; islamonazis; nocaircondemnation; ossetia; russianschool; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; terrorists; whereiscair
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To: Frank_Discussion
The president chuckles, and claps the King on the back: "Oh, I understand. Tell him it takes place in the future."

Yes. Aren't those pictures prevously posted, just awful? These terrorists need to be sent to Allah ASAP.

101 posted on 09/03/2004 11:49:52 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: silversky
I'm sure there will be moderate Muslims who would come forward and propose good ideas.

It is long past time for the so called moderates to step up, the truth is hard my friend, but the moderates are (a) scared to death to speak up, or (b) quietly waiting to see who is gonna win this battle, and it is not words which will win. You must be aware of how many times they have called for cease fires to "talk" only to find out that later they used the truce to sneak away to attack again somewhere else. If words would solve things, the Israelis offer to give up most of the disputed land would have brought out the moderate members of the Palestine leadership.

The Saudi leadership is reaping what they sowed for supporting the wahhabist movement for so long. But they cannot support democracy either, because they could not stand for popular election. I believe you will see that moderate muslims have not come forward in Russia either, Islam is on the rise with radical Islam leading the way. Watch how they operate, see that they only use words when they need to buy time. When they are strong enough, they will commit additional acts of terrorism. This is a certainty. This is why Kerry has nothing to offer that Bush has not already tried. Talk, UN negotiations, so what; they don't live by their word.

102 posted on 09/03/2004 11:52:38 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: Mark17

Aye. The pics are horrible. I wonder Putin's going to do? If the muslims pine so much for medieval times, can't they be treated to a little taste of it, now?


103 posted on 09/03/2004 11:52:48 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: AdamSelene235

You need constant training to use a hand gun. I gun in teh hand of a teacher that can't shoot in combat conditions is useless.


104 posted on 09/03/2004 11:53:47 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Frank_Discussion
If the muslims pine so much for medieval times, can't they be treated to a little taste of it, now?

My opinion is, that Putin will be under tremendous pressure, to do exactly that.

105 posted on 09/03/2004 11:54:50 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Destro
You need constant training to use a hand gun.

Once a week is ideal.

4 times a year will suffice for this problem.

106 posted on 09/03/2004 11:56:52 AM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: KC Burke

That's so it's easier to transpose the obituary list onto the democrat voting roster.


107 posted on 09/03/2004 12:00:03 PM PDT by RJS1950
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To: El Gato

Its called fire power that overcomes the numerical odds.

Air force, tanks and naval placements overcome the numbers.

As for civilian casualties, it would be smart to take it to them in chechnya and hit the known terror hang outs now!

Israel has the right intel and strategy in the methodology.

So does the U.S. in Afgan and Iraq!

Ops4 God Bless America!


108 posted on 09/03/2004 12:01:28 PM PDT by OPS4 (worth repeating)
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To: wonders

We shouldn't kill civilians indiscriminately. We should specifically target Muslim ones.


109 posted on 09/03/2004 12:09:26 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("With 64 days left, John Kerry still has time to change his mind 4 or 5 more times" - Rudy Giuliani)
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To: Mark17

Perhaps he will yield to that pressure.


110 posted on 09/03/2004 12:14:07 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Frank_Discussion
OK would you like to know how to deal effectively with the Chechnya terrorist state? Here is how,

1) Get rid of all gun laws.
2) Outlaws the practice of Islam in Chechnya.
3) Announces a land give away. All the land in Chechnya will be given to who ever (Russian or not) can claim it and keep it. (Up to say 1,000 acres or some other reasonable number). Except land deemed of strategic value to Russian Military or Chechnya infrastructure (water rights).
4) No Chechnya wide law enforcement, all law enforcement is local.
5) Security provided by Russian military, but most locals are on their own and must band together to provide self defense.
6) Low, very low taxes.

Implementing the above would attract he kind of people that would fight to keep their newly won land and would ban together to fight the Islamic terrorists. There are lots of poor dislocated people in the world that would jump at the chance to own land in a rich country like Chechnya. People like those being throw out of Africa, or Crowded out of the USA and Europe. Such a policy would work.

111 posted on 09/03/2004 12:21:45 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: RussianConservative

see 111, what do you think?


112 posted on 09/03/2004 12:23:40 PM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: NavySEAL F-16
I'm waiting for Reuters to call them Freedom fighters

If they call them Michael Moore freedom fighters I would say that is appropriate.

113 posted on 09/03/2004 12:25:41 PM PDT by Bernard (Let Freedom Reign)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
You must be aware of how many times they have called for cease fires to "talk" only to find out that later they used the truce to sneak away to attack again somewhere else.

That's the traditional islamic practice called hudna, calling a "truce" only to use the time gained by the "truce" to come back even stronger:

link

"Hudna has a distinct meaning to Islamic fundamentalists, well-versed in their history: The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam."

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Maybe someday we in the West will catch on to what moslems really mean by hudna.

114 posted on 09/03/2004 12:59:48 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Destro

Like I said, a couple of my kids' teachers were young men who recenty had served in the military. We also had a cop who taught kids about drugs last year in school. Sometimes retired cops were in this role. Yes, I'd trust them with guns.


115 posted on 09/03/2004 1:19:10 PM PDT by keats5
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To: kattracks

BTTT


116 posted on 09/03/2004 1:34:20 PM PDT by wasp69 (Zell Miller is a prime example that Southern Gentlemen and Statesmen still exist.)
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To: texasbluebell
The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam."

In other words, he practiced peace when he was weak and war when he was strong. It is noteworthy that the verses of the Koran writen in the "peaceful time" speak of living in peace with other religions, after he took Mecca, the verses speak of the destruction of all infidels. And you would think we could understand them. Its all out there to read.

117 posted on 09/03/2004 1:37:16 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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More Than 200 Dead in Russian School Siege

Russian Siege Sparks World Horror, Solidarity

118 posted on 09/03/2004 2:13:25 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

From CNN: One teenage female told a reporter that 18 big bomgs hung from the ceiling over them in the room they were in. This teenage female also said that one female suicide bomber blew herself up in front of them.


119 posted on 09/03/2004 2:29:29 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Dear G-d, these pictures are heartbreaking.


120 posted on 09/03/2004 4:06:44 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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