Cheney’s “five deferments.”

Sean Hannity Board ^ | Sept 3 | Bob Hyneman

[Bob Hyneman]

Cheney’s “five deferments.”

[b][color=orange]In the summer of 1967 D ick Cheney was a married 26 year old man with a daughter.[/color] [/b] Twenty-six year old men cannot be drafted but (gasp) he was married and had a daughter BEFORE he turned 26 and that means he had two deferments!!!

[b](Everyone who had a daughter in 1966 was draft dodger right?).[/b]

Anyway, a half-truth is as good as a truth to John Kerry, so all you need to know is the two deferments part right?

Except, that many many years before the draft, D ick Cheney had also - attended Community College - and then University. Since any slick lawyer-type can tell you transferring schools can legally be counted as two deferments, that brings the total to four. (Never mind that he acquired both of these [b][u]years[/u][/b] before Vietnam was a war, or had draft, or could even be found on the amp by most Americans).

So what is number 5? Well in 1965 the US sent its first contingent of 3,500 Marines to Vietnam. (The draft would begin in earnest in 1966-67), Only a few years earlier in 1964-65, that damn D ick Cheney began applying for graduate schools and grad school acceptance counts as another. (This time Mr. Kerry DID successfully count to five).

So, if you believe John Kerry’s version of events, D ick Cheney began dodging the Vietnam draft five (or six) years before troops were being drafted and sent there. (Look this is politics and ad hominem attacks are allowed but if that is the best you got then you ain't got ad hominems)

[b]The fact is that D ick Cheney: - was accepted to community college - was accepted to the U of Wyoming - was accepted to graduate school - was married - was an expectant father all MORE THAN A YEAR before the draft began.[/b]

I note here that Cheney was married and an expectant father both during grad school and after Kerry COULD count that as SEVEN deferments, (but that would imply the ability to count to seven).

I suppose a 26 year-old daddy with a graduate degree and a newborn daughter COULD have volunteered to go to Vietnam, but I don’t think it is altogether honest to portray him as a draft dodger, do you?

[1Old Pro]

The LIBERALLY BIASED Media is LOSING more readers daily. Soon they will be HISTORY like the Kerry campaign.

Which brings up the question, will there be a paper left to run the obituary for the liberal media ?

[Semi Civil Servant]

I am too young (49) to have been worried about going to Vietnam when I was 18, so I don't know a lot about the deferment process in the 60's. But were they not legal? If one got a deferment, was it not the government that gave it to you? If the VP got a deferment, then ipso facto it was the same govt that drafted that gave it out, no? And, if the Vietnam war was considered a bad war by the Left, then he should be praised by them for not going to fight it, no?.......

Your logic is impeccable, as always, Mr. Spock.

[wideawake]

From what my husband told me, no one born in 53 was drafted.

Not precisely true, but the draft had leveled off considerably by then.

I believe that the first Vietnam draft lottery took place in December 1969 and the last in February 1972.

Everyone born in 1953 was 18 years old by February 1972 and therefore legally subject to the draft.

[kinsman redeemer]

So you're saying--
"He actually TRIED to get a deferment before didn't?"

[FairWitness]

Thanks for taking the time to illuminate this "sound bite" that is being used against Mr. Cheney. I'm the same age as the VP and, while he and I both could have volunteered for Vietnam, we were a bit "over the hill" by that time. The Cuban missile crisis (Oct. 1962, when he and I were already 21), if it had turned into a war, is the event that would probably have gotten both of us into service. Age matters: Cheney (b. 1/30/41) is almost three years older than Kerry (b. 12/11/43), who in turn is 2 years and 8 months older than President Bush (b. 7/6/46). Those age differences make a tremendous difference in how their records should be viewed.

[ThomasMore]

Excellant post!

BUMP!

[bigbob]

I'll bet Dick Cheney's got two words for John Kerry, and they ain't "Merry Christmas"

[wvromania]

WHY IS NO ONE ASKING WHY THE hE_ _ DIDN'T JOHN EDWARDS VOLUNTERR FOR ACTIVE DUTY, IF THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. INSTEAD OF BEING A "girly man".

[Red Badger]

Logic has no meaning in the politics of hate practiced by the Left......Danke!.....

[Piranha]

Kerry actually tried to get a deferment before he didn't try to get a deferment.

[Mister Baredog]

Gee didn't Cheney also serve his country as WH Chief of staff, a congressman, and Sec of Defense. The last time I looked these roles are called public service too.

BTW Cheney being VP, shouldn't Flippy be comparing his record to John-boy Jr's(Edwards) record?

[andy58-in-nh]

Do anything beside lies come out of sKerry's mouth?

Well, there's also bluster and braggery, and the occasional "Do you know who I am? directed at some poor working stiff who's not moving fast enough for his Highness. The man is a jerk, and a thin-skinned one at that.

[nuconvert]

I beg to differ. People born in 1953 certainly WERE drafted.

[ThomasMore]

hi xzins...

That's immoral.

Immoral = Democrats
Democrats = Immoral

What's new? LOL

Deacon Francis

[LisaFab]

My brother, born on August 9, 1953 received number seven in the draft lottery in 1973, was classified 1A, passed his physical and was ready to go when the draft ended later that year.

Anybody who has Edwards' birthday can look up his number here.

[SquirrelKing]

At this point, John Kerry would say: "How dare you question my patriotism!?"

I'm so tired of that phrase. Geez...

[stevem]

Didn't I read somewhere that Cheney led the military as Secretary of Defense from 1988 to 1992? Didn't I read somewhere that during this watch the US became embroiled in a shooting war? If that's all true, then didn't Cheney serve the US in a military capacity (though not in uniform) for approximately four years?

If all that is so, I wonder who had a greater influence on military policy during his time in that spotlight, Cheney or Kerry. I wonder who said more things in support of the troops in his life, Cheney or Kerry.

[truthkeeper]

I saw it reported recently that Kerry actually first tried to get a deferment or out the draft altogether but failed. His next plan was to go for as short a time as possible - successfully achieved in 4 months. I will google around and try to find that report. If anyone knows the facts please post them.

Doug, did you hear that extensive report Larry Elder (KABC radio 79.0, Los Angeles) did on this last week? With all the citations? Claiming that Kerry applied for a deferrment after Yale and was denied, so he enrolled in the Naval Reserve Officer's Training School?

I meant to send Larry an e-mail asking for those citations or go to his website and see if he has that info posted, but I haven't had time.

[wideawake]

Spin it anyway you want.

Sounds like you're spinning.

Cheney stayed home while fifty thousand Americans died in a war he supported.

So, unless one volunteered, it was their moral duty to oppose the war? Reply when you start making sense.

[familyofman]

"...chose the Navy because he wanted to fight the fierce North Vietnam Navy..."

Are you saying that all those in the Navy during the Vietnam War were some kind of wussies? Sure sounds that way to me - how about the Air Force? If you deride 1 sailor's service - you deride them all - jerk!!!