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Keyes: 'The victory is for God'
Chicago Sun Times ^ | August 22, 2004 | BY CATHLEEN FALSANI Religion Reporter

Posted on 08/22/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

First impressions can be misleading.

Two weeks ago, a wild-eyed Alan Keyes stood in front of news cameras in a hot, crowded Arlington Heights banquet hall sweating profusely, yelling and shaking his fist as he enthusiastically accepted the Republican nomination to run for U.S. Senate in Illinois.

"I will promise you a battle like this nation has never seen," Keyes shouted with the passion of a preacher talking about spiritual combat with the forces of evil, thrusting his fist heavenward for emphasis. "The battle is for us, but I have confidence because the victory IS FOR GOD!"

A few days after he delivered the fiery speech that was replayed time and again on television newscasts across the nation, a decidedly different Alan Keyes is seated behind the desk of a spartan office in what was until recently the Jack Ryan for Senate headquarters on North Clinton in Chicago.

On this particular afternoon, the 54-year-old Maryland conservative, political pundit and two-time presidential hopeful is about to spend more than an hour, one-on-one with a reporter, in an interview about his personal faith.

He's in tie and shirtsleeves, leaning back casually in his chair. Two small, gold charms -- a crucifix and twin Ten Commandment tablets -- that usually dangle from a long gold chain are tucked into his breast pocket, the chain pulled across his chest at an angle giving him just the faintest air of a bishop.

"The boss and the rules," he'll quip later as he pulls the charms out of his pocket and allows them to fall on top of his silk tie.

Whether his mood is irascible or reflective, Keyes, a lifelong Roman Catholic, wears his faith on his sleeve as well as around his neck.

When asked to describe himself spiritually, Keyes is reasoned, sincerely thoughtful and significantly more reserved than that man behind the lectern on TV.

"Well, in the fullest sense, I describe myself as a Christian," he says. "I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God, came amongst men in order to redeem us from original sin and to offer us a way to his father, which he offered us in his words and examples and exposed to us the truth: that God loves us as individuals and knows our weaknesses because Christ has experienced them.

"And therefore, with really infinite understanding and mercy, is ready to welcome us into his home if we are willing to turn around and accept his grace," he says.

How does he define what a Christian is?

"One of the essential characteristics of Christianity is that it is about faith. Christ often says, 'Your faith has saved you,' to people. And that means that your willingness to acknowledge in truth the authority of God and the mercy of God in the person of Jesus Christ, is the route to salvation," he says, without hesitation.

"We are transformed by our knowledge of Christ, and that's why there is going to be a manifestation in us of that change, which shows itself in the different way we start to relate to people."

Cradle Catholic

Born in a New York military hospital in 1950 while his father was serving in Korea, Keyes describes himself as an "Army brat." Along with his sister and three brothers, he was raised on military bases across the United States, and, for a time, in Italy.

His parents, Alison and Gerthina, both now deceased, were converts to Roman Catholicism.

Keyes says his first concept of what God is like is inextricably bound to Catholicism.

"My earliest idea that I remember was Jesus Christ, he was my idea of what God was like," he says. "When you grow up Catholic, I remember being encouraged to think of Jesus as your friend. Just a friend, like the friends you had on the playground, or in school. And I can remember that that was a part of my developing thought life when I was a child, having conversations with Jesus in my head, as if he were one of my playmates. . . . He was a child, just like me."

And now what does he think God is like?

"He's grown up," Keyes, who is married with three children, says, busting out in a belly laugh. "He's grown up. And I hope, I've grown up a bit. But I think that depth of it hasn't changed. We go through 'times.' We advance, we retreat, we struggle, we wrestle."

Keyes insists his faith has remained fairly constant throughout his life, though there were times when he says he felt more distant from his faith than he does today.

"I think the Bible is right [when] it says that you raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he will not depart from it," Keyes says, paraphrasing a passage from the 22nd chapter of the Biblical book of Proverbs. "That obviously implies -- doesn't it? -- a kind of gap. There's something in youth that somehow implies that people do depart from it a little bit. But if you raise them in the way they should go, then the roots take over again. And one returns."

When he was a doctoral student in the late 1970s at Harvard working on his dissertation about constitutional theory, Keyes says, he struggled a bit spiritually.

"When you're a graduate student, you go through your ups and downs and sometimes you hit really great lows. Some people, as a result of that, give up and they never reach their degree," he recalls. "At a moment of crisis for me -- I'll never forget -- I was feeling just that low, sort of thinking, 'I've been working at it and I'm never going to finish and it's just hopeless.'

"I called my mom, and that conversation, in which she really did nothing but listen to me and remind me that I'd gotten through different things in my life through faith -- sparked an experience I still remember," he says, his voice breaking with emotion. "And it transformed my sense of what my faith meant to me."

He received his Ph.D. in government from Harvard in 1979. He also earned his undergraduate degree from Harvard in 1972.

Keyes describes a mild crisis of faith that had grown alongside his intellectual pursuits.

"In American academics, it's difficult to be a person of faith. There's a certain kind of patronizing, a sense of, 'Oh, you'll grow out of it,' " he says.

"So you begin to push your faith into the background, and maybe not really want to show it and so forth and so on. You start to doubt whether or not you are being intellectually honest if you are relying on premises of faith."

It's a conundrum Keyes seems to have resolved with a vengeance.

The word became flesh

Keyes would never make himself out to be some sort of Biblical scholar, but when it comes to Scripture, he knows what he's talking about.

He reads Greek -- he travels with a laptop loaded with Bible software, including a copy of the Septuagint, the Greek version of Hebrew Scriptures -- and can wax eloquent at length about the etymology of certain words and how they correspond to theological principles.

"I try to read or think about some element of the Bible every day," he says, leaning back in his office chair, and propping his feet up on the desk.

When asked what portion of the Bible he most enjoys reading, he says, without hesitation, "Genesis."

"I often tell people that my greatest problem in the Bible is that in any serious way I've never been able to get past Genesis," he says, chuckling. "Now, I have read the whole Bible and I read other books, but what I mean is the book that I keep going back to over and over again is Genesis.

"For the longest time, I was really going back over and over again, thinking and writing about, the creation myths, because it seemed to me that there's an enormous depth of kind of philosophical implication," he says.

In addition to his Biblical studies, Keyes is a philosophy buff.

"People will think this is strange I suppose, but . . . there are books like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason and Hegel's Logic and things like that, and every once in a while I get hit by this mood and I have to wrestle with these books that are very abstract and that are kind of philosophy in the viewless realms where you are really dealing with concepts that have no corresponding material images or anything to go along with it," he says, excitedly. "You just have to go with pure concepts to think about things. And I think, in the sense of that kind of philosophical thinking, meditation and reasoning, Genesis is an enormously powerful experience."

This launches Keyes into a 20-minute discussion of what he describes as his latest "breakthrough" in examining a portion of Biblical text.

Specifically, the candidate says for four or five months he had been reading, re-reading and picking apart several dozen verses from the 4th, 5th and 6th chapters of Genesis, beginning with one of those "begat" passages.

So and so, son of so and so, begat so and so, father of so and so, who begat.. ..

These particular begat passages start with a descendant of Cain, the son of Adam and Eve who murders his brother Abel, and end with Noah -- the fellow with the ark.

With an almost childlike enthusiasm, Keyes recounts how he traced the lineage of Noah and the descendants of Cain, examined the ancient roots of certain words, and learned, according to his interpretation, that God's covenant with Noah after the flood included the institution of capital punishment for the first time.

"It's fascinating, don't you think?" Keyes asks, smiling broadly, when he's concluded an exegesis of the text that, at least in its methodology, would give any seminary professor or preacher a serious run for his money.

A boundless sorrow

Keyes could be a preacher, a Biblical scholar, or professional apologist for Christ. But instead, he's chosen to enter the secular political realm.

Why choose a field that can so often obfuscate faith?

It's a question, apparently, that moves Keyes to tears.

His eyes turn red, he stops talking for several minutes, stares at the ceiling, drums his fingers on the desk, and apologizes for his loss of composure.

After several attempts to begin speaking, only to have his voice crack with emotion, Keyes tries again to explain what he's feeling.

"I'm sorry, I'm getting a grip," he says, eyes red with tears. "When I was young, I encountered a problem, I guess. A challenge. And I guess it was an encounter that disillusioned me, yes, in the literal sense. And that was my first encounter with the reality -- intellectually and emotionally . . ." he pauses again, his voice trailing off for a few moments. " . . . Of what the slave experience meant to my ancestors. And I think I've been working that out ever since.''

When pressed to explain just what this "encounter" was, Keyes reveals that it was, in fact, an intellectual incident.

When he was about 15, he read Lerone Bennett's book Before the Mayflower: A History of the Negro in America, 1619-1964. And it broke his heart, he says.

"It's sorrow," he says, explaining why 40 years later he's still so emotional about something he read as a teenager. "It's not a sorrow for yourself, it's not a sorrow for individuals, it's a sorrow for the reality of our kind of sad experience . . . of life without God."

And it's that sorrow and outrage that in part has led him into politics, Keyes says.

"It's a problem of justice and to understand it and resolve it somehow is not an intellectual exercise. You have to meet the challenge of it in your own time and life. And at some level, that's what politics remains at its heart, in America," he explains.

"It's impossible to be a Christian and really live out your relationship with God apart from life and action," he says. "And that action requires that you kind of be aware of and sensitive to how in fact the injustice that was involved in slavery is like one of those difficult plants where you cut off what appears on the surface but the root is still there. And it springs up again in another place, in what seems like another form, but it is the same evil. It's the same root."

Christus victor?

So, what did he mean, exactly, back at that podium in Arlington Heights, when he exclaimed that "the victory is for God"?

Was he saying God is on his side -- the side of the righteous -- and not on that of his Democratic opponent, Barack Obama, a man who professes the same Christian faith?

"Well, professing is the operative word," Keyes says, in a moment of snarkiness conspicuously absent from the rest of the interview.

"I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe it wasn't," he says, reflecting on his acceptance speech a few days earlier. "What I meant by it was the victory is in God's hands for his will and decision. That's why I couldn't promise it to people. I might lose. I don't know. None of us knows.

"The notion that you can stand there and say, 'Rah! We're gonna win!' I know you're supposed to do that, but I find it very difficult to say stuff that I know, even if it's rhetorical, is not true," he says.

Keyes is puzzled by the idea that some people would be afraid of the notion of "God on our side."

"I rather want people to think God is on their side, because that means they know he's watching them, and that his rules still apply to what they do," he says, smiling. "I hope that's the result."

"I often tell people that my greatest problem in the Bible is that in any serious way I've never been able to get past Genesis. Now, I have read the whole Bible and I read other books, but what I mean is the book I keep going back to over and over again is Genesis."

http://www.suntimes.com/output/falsani/cst-nws-keyes22.html


TOPICS: Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: keyes; thengodmustbealoser
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To: EternalVigilance
Don't bother Ev.......and WHY are you till here posting? You bade us all a not so fond farewell.

I posted facts,EV;you just don't like them.

561 posted on 08/24/2004 9:53:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I kept my word to not post until you all had lost your free hand to attack and slander conservatives. You have. Live with it.


562 posted on 08/24/2004 9:58:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: EternalVigilance
This is my very last post to you,EV.

The people who were being thoroughly trashed,impugned,insulted,heaped with invective,and threatened,were,for the most part/majority of the time,those who are not Keyes' avid supporters.Those people have now been told that there is no place for their posts on FR.The vast majority of them did NOT reply in kind,personally attacking those few,who were responsible for the kinds of acts,which heretofore got the poster suspended or banned.

It's Jim's decision and yes,we'll live with it;just as YOU have to now live with what you have to live with.Enjoy your time in the sun,EV. :-)

563 posted on 08/24/2004 10:05:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; Luis Gonzalez; EternalVigilance

I of course was the first to flat out support Obama on this forum (that I know of), and EV was very gracious about it. Maybe EV was just in an irritable mood this time.


564 posted on 08/24/2004 10:25:50 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Robert_Paulson2

pinging? just a reply, which I won't do again here


565 posted on 08/25/2004 12:41:58 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Jorge
That would be like me saying that we don't have to be as worried about the evil of the DU but rather the GREATER evil of the posts of "unspun" that sneak behind FR lines. BUT that is NOT calling unspun "evil". Talk about tortured logic! Can't you come up with a better defense of Keyes than this?

You have to have an appreciation for "nuance" Jorge. ;-'

566 posted on 08/25/2004 12:45:44 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Torie
I of course was the first to flat out support Obama on this forum (that I know of), and EV was very gracious about it. Maybe EV was just in an irritable mood this time.

You are supporting Barack Obama?

567 posted on 08/25/2004 12:48:34 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Jorge

BTW, I didn't wsy I agreed with him. I can disagree with an important conservative leader, including Bush and Keyes, while still supporting them.

Call me too agreeable, if you must. ;-'


568 posted on 08/25/2004 12:50:14 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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wsy = say, after I wake up in the middle of the night


569 posted on 08/25/2004 12:55:15 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Torie

Thanks for your kind remark. Much appreciated.

You're still my favorite honest liberal...that most rare of creatures...

;-)


570 posted on 08/25/2004 12:57:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A REPUBLIC, IF YOU CAN KEEP IT...)
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To: nopardons
Those people have now been told that there is no place for their posts on FR.

A good decision. :-)

Go, Keyes, go!!

571 posted on 08/25/2004 12:58:15 AM PDT by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Jorge
Break it down. Keyes refers to HIS battle, and HIS confidence BECAUSE of the victory being for GOD.

Yes, the battle is for us. The victory (or victor) is decided by God.

572 posted on 08/25/2004 4:16:47 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Jorge
[Me] Just how do you work that into an "attack" on President Bush by Alan Keyes?

[You, substituting snideness for a response] You're kidding right?
Read his quote a few more times then get back to me.

The 2004 GOP platform does not contain the word "conservative" anywhere in it, and only a few things in it could be said to be "conservative" -- and those are all economic issues.

Elsewhere, the size of the government and the budget are substantially expanded -- by the argument of the American Conservative Union, more than in any single proposition since the New Deal.

George W. Bush and his family are not now, and never have been, conservatives. Bush senior ran for his congressional district, and later for the senate, as a Republican liberal -- a "Rockefeller Republican", on principia that Olympia Snowe and Lincoln Chaffee would find palatable. Dubya has been more conservative, or actually less liberal than his father, but could not be said to be any more conservative than a typical Republican moderate from the Midwest or North. Look at his cabinet: he has no conservatives in sensitive positions other than John Ashcroft. Rumsfeld is a northern, moderate Republican. Colin Powell is a moderate, and Condi Rice is a moderate Republican from California. There are no Newt Gingriches or Bob Barrs in Bush's cabinet -- no conservative, white Southern Republicans. Rod Paige, the Secretary of Education, is from Texas, but a) he's black, b) he's a moderate, c) he's a professional education bureaucrat, and d) the fact that the Department of Education and the Department of Energy still exist are further convincing evidence for Bush's big-government, moderate Republican views.

That George W. Bush has turned to such people for counsel indicates that he is not a conservative, but a moderate, cafeteria Republican. Bush's actions as governor of Texas further support the view that he is not a conservative, but instead has opposed conservatives for statewide office, putting up business-wing RiNO's to run in the GOP primaries against conservative incumbents.

Alan Keyes said something that is a palpable truism; that is not an attack. It is time for you to uncurl your lip and recognize that.

Now, what is your problem with Alan Keyes?

573 posted on 08/25/2004 4:25:28 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: k2blader

"Go Keyes!"

This will be shouted the day after the election for Keyes to go forth and run and lose for yet another office.


574 posted on 08/25/2004 4:40:01 AM PDT by Bluntpoint
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To: unspun

I love this saving for future use ;)


575 posted on 08/25/2004 5:06:24 AM PDT by JustPiper (I once had a pinglist a mile long....took me BumPING all day long)
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To: Robert_Paulson2
no it doesn't. ... I have been asked of late to not criticize alan. jim rob supports alan.. it is his forum... got it?

I so fondly remember the old days of the first amendment.

576 posted on 08/25/2004 6:04:00 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am being endorsed by Dick Cheney today, what will you be doing?)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I so fondly remember the old days of the first amendment.

Since when does the 1st amendment apply to privater internet forums?

577 posted on 08/25/2004 6:41:37 AM PDT by jmc813 (CAN YOU MAKE THE SAME CLAIM;ARE YOU A VIRGIN?)
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To: jmc813
I so fondly remember the old days of the first amendment.

Does this mean I have to start calling Bush a cokehead too?

578 posted on 08/25/2004 8:39:36 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I am being endorsed by Dick Cheney today, what will you be doing?)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Does this mean I have to start calling Bush a cokehead too?

I don't get it.

579 posted on 08/25/2004 9:48:30 AM PDT by jmc813 (CAN YOU MAKE THE SAME CLAIM;ARE YOU A VIRGIN?)
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To: lentulusgracchus; azhenfud
Keyes's reminder that the Bush family are not conservatives is in no way out of line.

And point well taken. However I've got some issues from the standpoint of what Keyes knows about the politics of the state he is running in. Unfortunately I've seen this once too often where someone out of state feels the need to run in a state they either have never lived in or say haven't lived in for oh, I don't know, 30 years?

580 posted on 08/25/2004 10:38:50 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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