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Attached wires to Human Genitals
Malsua

Posted on 08/19/2004 7:15:52 PM PDT by Malsua

Forgive the vanity please, but I've not seen this addressed.

John Kerry said: "We attached telephone wires to human genitals and cranked up the voltage" or some such.

I'm perplexed. The prominent comm equipment used in vietnam was 12-15 volts.

Isn't skin resistivity higher than that? Certainly you can apply enough voltage with hand crank devices, but if it's only putting out 12-15 volts...wouldn't nothing happen?

I'm not suggesting anyone try this, but 15 volts won't hurt unless you put water on it or something. Could someone clear this up for me?


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To: Peace will be here soon

Or touch a lawn mower spark plug while standing in damp grass....painfully numbing.


21 posted on 08/19/2004 7:23:55 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Dinsdale



>>Hand crank phones put out way more then 12 volts. Even your phone lines ring signal is something like 30 volts (IIRC). <<

Well, an internet search on Vietnam Era phones says 12-15 volts.

I would think a crank magneto would do more voltage. I'm just asking.


22 posted on 08/19/2004 7:24:47 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua
Depends on the current.
23 posted on 08/19/2004 7:25:48 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Paris Hilton - living proof that you do not need to be poor to be White Trash.)
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To: Malsua

Licorice: "My savior, John Kerry, said:
'We attached telephone wires to human genitals
and cranked up the voltage
'.
Darn good thing he did not use panty-hats, instead."

24 posted on 08/19/2004 7:27:43 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Malsua

You think you can`t use a car battery ( or similar battery ) routed through a crude coil assembly?

They cranked up the voltage, that is what Kerry said. It was not 12 or 15 volts that where applied to these fellows genitals.



25 posted on 08/19/2004 7:29:22 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (USA Eagles 31 , Frogs ( France ) 39... An improvement , but not quite there yet.)
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To: Diogenesis


You know, I think that's the cutest picture.

I said to my wife earlier, isn't that cute?(was posted in another thread) she says "I used to have one of those, I was 6, we took it out for a walk and it disappeared into the IVY around our house. I cried for hours."

I felt sad.

I hope that one is healthy and happy. It looks so cute. :)


26 posted on 08/19/2004 7:30:46 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

He watched too many hollywood movies that showed the japanese torture of Americans by using the ringing generator from the field telephones -- it could crank out almost 100 VAC!!

Only problem - ONLY the NVA and VC used that type of equipment back then - NOT us!!


27 posted on 08/19/2004 7:31:47 PM PDT by steplock
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To: Malsua
I'm not suggesting anyone try this, but 15 volts won't hurt unless you put water on it or something. Could someone clear this up for me?

You can experience many thousands of volts without getting hurt. A car battery is only 12 volts, but the amps are such that you can get fried. You can also paralyze fish in a pond with a telephone generator.
28 posted on 08/19/2004 7:33:45 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Malsua

I've seen the fish trick with an old wall phone. Don't ask me where.

What you are looking for is ring voltage. The voltage the phone put out when you were actively cranking the handle.

This is still around on your landline. Where ring is still higher then 12-15 today. I would'nt swear to any voltage for ring, someone will be along with exact info. In any case field phones would put out a good strong voltage as the lines could be long and bad.

The story is plausable. Even cliche.


29 posted on 08/19/2004 7:33:57 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Malsua

One of the guys down in the delta in the Area of Operation that Kerry says these events took place is Armitage...Colin Powells friend...and undersecretary..

He could debunk anything Kerry says as far as intel goes or prisoners treatment...


30 posted on 08/19/2004 7:35:30 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: aruanan



>> A car battery is only 12 volts, but the amps are such that you can get fried.<<<

yeah, but you can grab both terminals and not have any issue whatsoever.

Lots of amps in a car battery, but only painful if the voltage is jacked up.


31 posted on 08/19/2004 7:36:24 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: steplock
Not true, EE 8 phones and field switchboards were used all over the country in forward trains areas.

The ringing current is 90 volts, the type of magnetos that are used to stun fish, etc,
32 posted on 08/19/2004 7:36:38 PM PDT by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: Malsua
The device that Kerry is talking about is a unit we called a "Grinder". This equipment is used to test the insulation of the electrical wiring of the boats.

It is a hand held generator with a voltmeter used to generate enough voltage to break down the insulation. You would connect one lead to ground and one lead to the electrical wiring. You would then hand crank the generator and the faster you would crank it the more voltage it would generate.

This device would knock you on your butt with just a small movement of the crank.

33 posted on 08/19/2004 7:37:22 PM PDT by Souled_Out
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To: aruanan

An induction coil added to the curcuit can make things rather interesting.


34 posted on 08/19/2004 7:37:27 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Ace the Biker
The ringing current is 90 volts, the type of magnetos that are used to stun fish, etc,

Current is amps. Voltage is volts.

35 posted on 08/19/2004 7:38:48 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Malsua

If you lick a 9 volt battery to see if it is charged you will get a little tingle..IIRC in the 60's they made small 22 1/2 volt photoflash batteries, don't try it with those.......


36 posted on 08/19/2004 7:39:58 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Ace the Biker

I could only go by my experience as a grunt - we didn't carry telephone equiment - just our PRC-25's - and I had that honor. The worst that could do is break a toe.

I can't see a need for wired telephone equipment on a swift boat either.

Hmmm... come to think of it, the firing generator for a claymore COULD (maybe) give some kind of shock, but I always found the actual claymore to be much more effective.


37 posted on 08/19/2004 7:42:35 PM PDT by steplock
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To: Malsua

It's not the voltage that gets you, it's the amperage.


38 posted on 08/19/2004 7:42:40 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: Malsua
Lots of amps in a car battery, but only painful if the voltage is jacked up.

Sufficient amperage at any voltage will kill you. And it doesn't take much. 80 milliamps is enough for cardiac failure.
39 posted on 08/19/2004 7:44:11 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Malsua
Lots of amps in a car battery, but only painful if the voltage is jacked up.

Huh?

40 posted on 08/19/2004 7:44:22 PM PDT by Sloth (John Kerry: Frank Burns with Charles Winchester's pedigree.)
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