[COEXERJ145]

Of course the media just has to trot out a bunch of liberal hacks under the guise of "religious experts" none of whom probably have read the Bible since they were kids.

[rushmom]

Jesus would never condone abortion.

[ER_in_OC,CA]

Jesus came not for political revolution but for our salvation. Jesus had many opportunities to speak out against the hot political climate of the day and deliberately did not focus on those topics.

I find discussion of how Jesus would vote in the way Mr. Moore did disgusting. Similarly, those who would suggest Jesus would be Republican do no justice to his Glory by suggesting such an association.

Assuming one has the reformed view of theology, one could say that Jesus as God *has* voted, as everything that has unfolded here on Earth is His will as part of a greater purpose and story.

Yes, in some curious way, it was God's will that Carter be president at one time.

[Repub in a sea of idiots]

"But Tutt, board president of Austin Area Interreligious Ministries, which includes Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Muslims and Christians, balked at the perception that Bush is the only choice for people of faith.

"As I read the Scriptures and as I understand faith, God's side is the group that's feeding the poor, caring about children, making sure that people have enough food to eat - not killing others," said Tutt, who opposes the war in Iraq.

As one from Austin, I take offense. When Tutt as a supporter of Muslims condemns terrorism, then he'll have the moral authority to speak. But he hasn't. He can talk all he wants about feeding the poor and caring about children. But he doesn't have a darned thing to say about the murders of terrorists and those very fine Muslim folks that will strap a bomb on a child to blow up a bus. What a crock.

[aruanan]

Just a few miles from George W. Bush's former office at the state Capitol, a panel of religious experts Tuesday weighed a question with relevance to many people of faith: How would Jesus vote?

Such a question is idiotic for a number of reasons, but principally because the WWJD movement is based on an erroneous view of Jesus. Although he was morally blameless, he wasn't the example of "perfect humanity" showing us humans the way to behave--how to vote, what kind of car to drive, whether or not to use air conditioning or aerosol deodorant or one of those deodorant rocks. He claimed to be God incarnate and acted in many situations in ways which would be characteristic of an insane person if what he said wasn't factually true. Because of this, the mental exercise of trying to imagine what "Jesus" would do involves nothing more than people running their own personal Jesus simulacrum through the paces and imagining that the output of what amounts basically to a computer-modeling program is a means of acquiring truth. In reality, it is just a projection of their own moral sentiments into a visual form. They would do better to cut straight to the chase and evaluate those moral sentiments in light of what Jesus actually said with respect to what people's relationship with God, each other, and toward him ought to be (assuming the Gospel accounts to be accurate--and, for reasons it would take too long to go into here, they are).

WWJD is the modern version of pin sticking, a form of divination practiced in earlier centuries in which people would open a Bible and stick a pin to the page at random and read the pin-pointed verse. The assumption was that God would be guiding their hand to show them something he wanted to communicate to them about whatever problem was at hand. At least this had the virtue of limiting outcome to something actually in the Bible--well, to a product of something in the Bible and the imagination of the reader as he tried to shape the import of an isolated verse into a means of communicating something to him about a particular problem or decision he should make.

WWJD skips Biblical content and just goes directly to the imagination part, informed more or less by people's more or less accurate images of Jesus derived from the Bible, Sunday School stories, movies, and other popular sources. The aim of both methods of divination is to shift responsibility for some action to an agent outside of oneself. In the letters of Paul and other apostles, Jesus as an example is referred to, but in very specific ways, not as a plectrum of the imagination to divine the future or to decide what to do.

[TASMANIANRED]

The simple answer to this is: Would Jesus support the slaughter of innocents.

[Edit35]

Vote schmote.

As a Christian, I was always curious about what would Jesus wear?

And what would he eat?

Would he drive in a car, or use a horse?

And what about a house??

I always wondered about these things when I was a kid.

[bereanway]

"many analysts have criticized Democrats for failing to more effectively reach religious voters"

These people really don't get it. The problem is the dims message has come through loud and clear. Institutionalizing sodomy, the destruction of unwanted children, attempting to thwart parents options with respect to how they raise and educate their children, the marketing of every known perversion to children through every forum possible, attacks against God and the preaching or presentation off the whole counsel of His Word at every point.

That some bunch of leftist pseudo-pastors think it's all about sound bites shows just how clueless these guys really are. They wouldn't recognize the Word of God if it kicked them in the head. Unfortunately their apostasy is exacting a heavy price for those under their care.

[Rockitz]

Here's a great article entitled "Was Jesus a Liberal?" that has been posted here on FR.

The original link is
http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2925.html

[nyconse]

Jesus would never vote for a Democrat-The Democratic party t encourages the murder of helpless babies via the horrors of abortion....dream on fake Christians. You don't have a clue.

[Rockitz]

"As I read the Scriptures and as I understand faith, God's side is the group that's feeding the poor, caring about children, making sure that people have enough food to eat - not killing others," said Tutt, who opposes the war in Iraq.

This guy is clueless. God's side is not condoning abortion which the Democratic party does. God's side is also loving his neighbor. If you truly loved your neighbor and you saw an evil man preparing to murder him, what would you do? St. Augustine's Just War Theory considers this possibility and justifies war in certain cases.

[Paul Atreides]

In my local rag, I have seen umpteen ignorant letters, on the editorial page, written by people explaining how they are going to vote for the wonderful "Christian" John Kerry.

[Paul Atreides]

"If ever there were a bleeding-heart liberal, it was Jesus Christ," Moore said. "I think the carpenter from Galilee was the original Democrat."

Jesus and Vietnam vets: leftists suddenly love them, in election years.

[kenth]

I'd think the wholesale slaughter of the unborn would be the deal breaker.

[wardaddy]

Christ knows the evil of abortion....of that I am sure.

THERE IS NO DOUBT WHO HE SUPPORTS....NONE.


NOR IS THERE ANY DOUBT WHO THE "OTHER GUY" SUPPORTS EITHER.

[familyop]

Only pagans vote Democrat.

[blue-duncan]

Ross' understanding of the various Jewish sects in Jesus' time is interesting. He claims that Pharisees were fundamentalists when they actually acted more like liberals, passing laws for every thought and action and then interpreting them to suit the current thinking. Sadducees were the aristocrats and acted more like Kerry. They were internationalists at heart and were responsible for expanding the Hellenistic and Roman cultures in Israel. The Essenes were separatists, much like the Fundamentalist Christians of today. The Zealots were nationalists, not revolutionists. They were like the Zionists of today, moved by Judaism and the belief that the land of Israel was their God-given inheritance. What is even more interesting is that the Disciples were mostly Zealots from Galilee where Jesus grew up and for the most part relatives of Jesus or friends. Galilee was the hotbed of Zealots and the home of the school of Rabbi Shammai,which was more orthodox than the cosmopolitan and liberal school of Rabbi Hillel in Jerusalem. So, one could say that since Jesus battled the Pharisees, the party that kept passing laws to keep the underprivileged and riffraff in their place, and the Sadducees, the internationalists who tolerated anyone's belief, he would not be a Democrat (he also attended services regularly so that would only confirm that he was not a Democrat.).

[My2Cents]

Is this the same group that asked the question last year, "What would Jesus drive?" Did they ever come to a conclusion about that crucial question?

[P-Marlowe]

I believe that whoever wins in November is the guy that Jesus wants in that position this coming January. Whether it is to bless our nation or curse our nation will become apparent in the months and years following.

That being said, if Jesus wants to bless our nation, I believe he will keep GWB. If God wants our nation to be cursed, then Kerry is a shoe in.

[Libertina]

Well, he sure as heck would never have voted for a woman's "choice."

[narses]

Ping. Abortion? Well, that does it. Vote Bush.