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Changing minds
NARTH ^ | July 27, 2004 | George Archibald

Posted on 08/03/2004 5:48:23 PM PDT by scripter

Former homosexuals who had renounced same-sex relations were called "offensive" by delegates to this month's annual convention of the 2.7-million-member National Education Association (NEA).

"I'm really offended that you're even here," a delegate wearing the rainbow emblem of the NEA Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Caucus told a supporter of the new NEA Ex-Gay Educators Caucus.

The Ex-Gay Educators Caucus distributed literature explaining that scientific research shows that homosexuality is not "a fixed, inborn trait."

Other opponents of the Ex-Gay Educators Caucus, whose exhibit was permitted for the first time at this year's union gathering at the D.C. Convention Center, also challenged the NEA's claim of being democratic and diverse.

One delegate who visited the exhibit told caucus members that there was "a special place in hell for us," said caucus founder Jeralee Smith from California, an elementary special-education teacher and former lesbian.

She said another NEA delegate remarked, "You might as well set up a Ku Klux Klan booth right next to you."

Noe Gutierrez Jr. of California, a former homosexual activist who is now a member of the Ex-Gay Educators Caucus, said the intolerance was a shocking repudiation of anti-prejudice views voiced by advocacy groups and the NEA.

"Prejudice is assuming you know someone before you take the time to know them," said Mr. Gutierrez, who was featured as a spokesman in a 1998 Public Broadcasting Service TV special on presenting homosexual issues in the schools.

"People made the association between us and gay-bashers," he said. "I mean, they definitely lumped us in with a whole lot of bad and came to our booth with that attitude, not open in any way to learning. Isn't that funny? So at an educators caucus, there is no learning taking place. No one who came to yell at us or who could be angry with us came with an open mind or were ready to learn anything."

Opposition to the message of the Ex-Gay Educators Caucus is led by Kevin Jennings, a former private school teacher in Massachusetts and founder of the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network. Mr. Jennings is a partner with the NEA in promoting acceptance of homosexuality through curriculum materials in the nation's schools as early as kindergarten and elementary grades. He was given the NEA's human rights "creative leadership" award at this year's convention.

"Ex-gay messages have no place in our nation's public schools," Mr. Jennings said in a publication of the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network. "A line has been drawn. There is no 'other side' when you're talking about lesbian, gay and bisexual students."

Warren Throckmorton, past president of the American Mental Health Counselors Association, disagreed.

"Kids want to understand themselves. It's very early in life to make a definition about one's sexual identity. Educators should give kids options to wait awhile, to consider a straight identity if they would rather that," he said.

"If you've got teachers in schools telling kids that their same-sex attractions mean they are gay, they could foreclose on the option of waiting awhile to discover their sexual identity and their option to discover their heterosexual potential. The earlier that you decide on a sexual label, the more likely you are to experiment with sex."

But homosexual advocates within the NEA and outside groups sent out word that this was an important battle for them.

"The two issues that have been at the forefront for us this year have been the 'ex-gay caucus' and the marriage amendment," Tom Nicholas and Cathy Figel, chairmen of the Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Caucus, said in a message to the convention. "On the ex-gay issue, we are currently working with [NEA] President Reg Weaver to get to the delegates accurate information regarding reparative therapy."

The efforts of the Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Caucus prompted the NEA to distribute to all 9,000 convention delegates copies of a 12-page 1999 brochure produced by the union, "Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation and Youth: A Primer for Principals, Educators and School Personnel."

The brochure's central premise is that homosexuality is an inborn and immutable trait.

The Ex-Gay Educators Caucus, with Mr. Throckmorton's help, objected to NEA leaders that science does not support that view and persuaded Mr. Weaver to allow them to provide NEA delegates their six-page response titled "Respect and the Facts: How to Have Both in the Sexual Orientation Debate."

The NEA printed the response, which stated: "There is no consensus in current research to show that sexual orientation is a fixed, inborn trait. We believe sexual attractions are the product of nature and nurture and that sexual identity is a flexible experience for many people."

Miss Smith and Mr. Gutierrez say their own changes in sexual orientation are proof that homosexuality is not embedded in a person at birth.

Miss Smith said she became involved in homosexuality as the result of being sexually exploited when she was 15 by a female dean at the private school she attended. She says she might not have pursued homosexuality had it not been for that early experience.

"Young people who may not want to embrace the gay identity are not being given any hope," she said. "The stories of people who have not taken that choice are not being revealed, and there's a repression of information on the other side of the [pro-homosexual] viewpoint. And so we have to speak up."

Mr. Gutierrez says he "came out" as a homosexual at age 16, but by 24, "I felt empty, I felt dissatisfied, disillusioned."

Mr. Gutierrez, the son of a Pentecostal minister, says, "My whole identity had been swallowed up in my gay identity."

He says he objects to the way children are taught in schools that homosexuality is all right, but are denied other options for dealing with same-sex attraction as adolescents. The message given in many schools is: "If you're experiencing feelings of same-sex attraction, the only way you're going to be happy is to adopt them into a gay identity," he says.

The Ex-Gay Educators Caucus has a different message.

"At the very core of our stance is that gays can change, and we want to be there for the student who is unhappy about adopting a gay identity and who very much wants to explore venues toward change, toward being heterosexually identified," Mr. Gutierrez says.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: exgay; exgays; exhomosexual; formerhomosexual; gay; glsen; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; homosexuallinks; kevinjennings; lesbian; narth; nea; samesex; throckmorton
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1 posted on 08/03/2004 5:48:28 PM PDT by scripter
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; EdReform; little jeremiah

Ping


2 posted on 08/03/2004 5:48:49 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Once again, gay activists show they are the enemies of freedom of speech and thought. The thought police have been incredibly effective in their long march through the culture.


3 posted on 08/03/2004 5:50:36 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: scripter

WE need a list of HELP FOR NEA people. Those folks are sucking off of our tax dollars while at the same time corrupting our kids.


4 posted on 08/03/2004 5:51:50 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY LIED)
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To: scripter
"I'm really offended that you're even here," a delegate wearing the rainbow emblem of the NEA Gay Lesbian Bisexual Transgender Caucus told a supporter of the new NEA Ex-Gay Educators Caucus.

Such tolerance and inclusiveness is touching.

5 posted on 08/03/2004 5:54:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
"Ex-gay messages have no place in our nation's public schools," Mr. Jennings said in a publication of the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network. "A line has been drawn.

Mr. Jennings (of GLSEN) has covered his eyes and ears in an attempt to block the truth that thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.

6 posted on 08/03/2004 5:55:14 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
WE need a list of HELP FOR NEA people.

I would imagine the ignorant NEA folks are never interested in help.

7 posted on 08/03/2004 5:58:10 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
"Ex-gay messages have no place in our nation's public schools," Mr. Jennings said

Of course not, only perverse homosexual, bi, transgendered and who-know-what else deviant sexual behavior should have a place in our schools (/sarcasm)

8 posted on 08/03/2004 5:59:49 PM PDT by apackof2 (Kind words are like honey-sweet to the soul and healthy for the body Pro.16:24)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Such tolerance and inclusiveness is touching.

Not only can they not tolerate ex-homosexuals, but their comment indicates they cannot even accept the fact that ex-homosexuals exist. And that is sad.

9 posted on 08/03/2004 6:00:35 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: apackof2

Indeed. Mr. Jennings comments speak volumes.


10 posted on 08/03/2004 6:02:13 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
Whoops. The JONAH website made some changes. Here's their new site: Jews Offering New Alternatives to Homosexuality.
11 posted on 08/03/2004 6:05:32 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
"At the very core of our stance is that gays can change, and we want to be there for the student who is unhappy about adopting a gay identity and who very much wants to explore venues toward change, toward being heterosexually identified," Mr. Gutierrez says.

A very worthwhile core stance. If only people would listen...

12 posted on 08/03/2004 6:12:04 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Why do we even have to hear about their sexual preferences? NEA is not very high on my list of respected organizations...

I kept a pretty good eye on who exactly were my children's teachers...and their agendas while they were teaching.

We are all busy doing our OWN jobs every day, and parents shouldn't have to worry that their children are being subjected to influences they don't agree with or condone.


13 posted on 08/03/2004 6:13:23 PM PDT by bitt (what a crew!)
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To: scripter

The "tolerance" of the Left is an amazing thing to behold. But as they've come to apply convenient definitions of words all the way down to "is," it isn't even clear that we're speaking the same language anymore.


14 posted on 08/03/2004 6:19:25 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi ||| Resource for Traditional Anglicans: trad-anglican.faithweb.com)
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To: bitt
Why do we even have to hear about their sexual preferences?

That is indeed the question.

15 posted on 08/03/2004 6:50:24 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter

Un-freaking-believable.

These homo-nazis have the gall to say this:

"Ex-gay messages have no place in our nation's public schools," Mr. Jennings said in a publication of the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network. "A line has been drawn. There is no 'other side' when you're talking about lesbian, gay and bisexual students."

The truth - that a person doesn't have to be "gay" - undermines their agenda. So they want to doom thousands of kids to the "gay" life. That's where the hopelessness, depression, drug and alcohol abuse, and suicidal tendencies come from. Not from societal disapproval.

If kids are told the truth, they'll have hope.


16 posted on 08/03/2004 7:04:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (The Islamic Jihad and the Homosexual Jihad both want to destroy us.)
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To: scripter
It seems the message to be gained from this article is:

"It is no longer enough to have the right to be gay--it is now required!"

17 posted on 08/03/2004 7:13:14 PM PDT by twhitak
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To: little jeremiah

Do you suppose at the NEA convention they discuss such boring things as reading, writing, and math?


18 posted on 08/03/2004 7:25:37 PM PDT by dukeman
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To: scripter
"People made the association between us and gay-bashers," he said. "I mean, they definitely lumped us in with a whole lot of bad and came to our booth with that attitude, not open in any way to learning. Isn't that funny? So at an educators caucus, there is no learning taking place. No one who came to yell at us or who could be angry with us came with an open mind or were ready to learn anything."

Of course they are not open to learning, The truth may be exposed, they couldn't have that happen! The very concept of homosexuality flies in the face of every logical argument known to man, even if every person on earth would give up the fight against their perverse way of life nature itself would literally scream opposition at them! homosexuality has no redeemable qualities whatsoever period! keep it out of the schools!

19 posted on 08/03/2004 7:26:03 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (G W B 2004!)
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To: little jeremiah
If kids are told the truth, they'll have hope.

Kinda reminds me of the tactics of Jessie Jackson. According to Jennings we need to keep folks where they are and never give 'em hope.

20 posted on 08/03/2004 7:39:50 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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