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Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Sixteen
Yahoo ^ | 8-02-04 | AP

Posted on 08/02/2004 5:12:31 PM PDT by JustPiper




Credit: The Cabal

The title refers to a daily report given to the president of the United States detailing the most serious terrorist threats against the country. To tackle those threats, the government has formed a top-notch task force to infiltrate the terror cells and cut off the danger.

"Every morning, the president receives a list of the top ten terrorist threats - this list is known as the threat matrix."

We here at FR are trying to be in conjunction with the daily reports around the world that involve threats. We try to provide a storehouse of information that takes hours of research.

YOU be the Judge and get informed.


"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat."

Link to Thread Fifteen

Police Secure Businesses on Terror Alert
NEW YORK - Police searched trucks, blocked streets and posted machine-gun toting officers outside financial landmarks Monday, a day after the government's chilling warning that terrorists might target the buildings with bombs.





"God could not be everywhere and therefore he made mothers."
-- Jewish proverb








We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the
enemy who wishes to do us harm.




"What good are the color codes at all if we are suddenly hit with a bio or chem attack? There would be no warning and the danger would be instant."

"Code Red Implications
Code Red - Stay Home and Await Word."
by MamaDearest





Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!





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KEYWORDS: muslims; terror; threatmatrix; threats
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To: All

This is the last comment I will make publicly on the issue, I want nothing more than for it to be resolved…

After re-reading my comment to HipShot earlier, I realize that I did not quite clarify what I was trying to say (I have apologized to him in PM). For the record, I do not believe that the Christian God that we pray to is the same God that Islamists use to justify murdering innocent civilians. I was stating that, based on my studies, Muslims believe that Allah is the same or a similar God Christians and Jews believe in. That is all, nothing more. I was only trying to clarify a statement made by another poster and it seems that I have failed miserably in that attempt.

I am young (22), and make some youthful mistakes in my attempts to redeem people who may or may not deserve redemption (I generally side with the one being ‘picked on,’ always have). To anyone who was offended by my comments, I am deeply sorry… it was not my intent.

I have told my story here a few times. Just a reminder (if it is really needed): I come from a Christian family and I am a Christian myself. I originally found FR shortly after the 9/11 tragedy and was always amazed at the good and thoughtful folks here. I still am, but I am confused as to why I would be labeled an Islamic sympathizer due to the fact that I have tried to answer some questions as to what they believe (based on what I have been taught in college). My intentions are all good, every single one of them.

I want to have the chance to have children of my own, to teach them the ideals that have made America so great. I want to have a bright future, not one in which I have to be scared every day about the unknown. In trying to accomplish these goals I have taken a proactive approach to this WOT (just as many TM folks have, in their own ways). Part of being proactive is learning the intricacies of our enemy, and part of learning the intricacies of our enemy is looking at things from their point of view.

That is all; I only ask to be taken at my word, nothing more.


3,401 posted on 08/08/2004 3:19:30 PM PDT by nwctwx
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To: HipShot
This is unrelated to your post, HipShot, but your post reminded me of something I heard today on FOXNews I believe it was.

Sorry I wasn't paying better attention to the show, but at one point someone was mentioning how we are trying to jam IEDs and the like. I assume they were talking about using the jamming technology. And then there was no more about it after that comment. Darn!

3,402 posted on 08/08/2004 3:22:59 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo
The ONLY criteria I think is important here is that we not use any material for which JR or FR can be further threatened or litigated. If in doubt, check with the Admin. Mod., but please protect our thread first and foremost. Without it, we disseminate no information at all. It's really just common sense in light of what we've already been through here. No harm meant Donna Lee.
3,403 posted on 08/08/2004 3:23:26 PM PDT by MamaDearest (Learn to recognize the inconsequential - and then ignore it!)
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To: nwctwx

3,404 posted on 08/08/2004 3:24:04 PM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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To: CharlotteVRWC
"Terrorist Hunter" is a must read, and thanks again for posting about it earlier in the summer.

I'm astounded that the author of this book uncovered mountains of information that our own govt alphabet agencies could not find, and even after she gave them so much information, they disregarded it. Were not even interested in putting together links, nor in stopping problems before the fact.

An interesting little tidbit from the book, the author points out that ObL called one of our govt agencies, the Food and Beverage Industry, his little code word for that agency. She also has pointed out how often food terms and food items have been used in their coded messages.

From the book:

"The two [Ramzi Yousef and Ajaj] had used cooking and various names of vegetables as codes while planning the 1993 [WTC] attack."

3,406 posted on 08/08/2004 3:26:47 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: liz44040

That's ok, I was non PC enough for both of us.


3,407 posted on 08/08/2004 3:28:07 PM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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To: MamaDearest

I understand. :)


3,408 posted on 08/08/2004 3:30:17 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: callmejoe
I am not a Muslim.
I am making a point.

God is compassionate and merciful whether your mouth says "God", "Dios", or "Allah". If the terrorists believed that, they would think twice whether killing women and children is "merciful". But it is true nonetheless - - no matter how you say it.

You are twisting words here. It does matter how you say it. And any Christian will know you are lying to spread The propaganda of other religions.

As you see in my other post to you allah is a MOON god. If it didn't matter Which word you used, then why don't the muslims and the extremist accept THE GOD and call him as such I am sure there must be a word in Arabic for GOD in Arabic that is not related to the MOON god which is pagan worship.
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And I am only saying what Billy (not Franklin) Graham said in the past.
NO YOU ARE SAYING WHAT BILLY GRAHAM SAYS. Could you please point to a reference for this from literature from Billy Graham. the following is from his site....The Bible says ...

"Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me." --Revelation 3:20 (NIV)

"Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God." --John 1:12 (NIV)

"That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved." --Romans 10:9 (NIV)
See here
http://www.billygraham.org/believe/stepstopeace.asp

We worship the same God.
WITH OUT DOUBT WE DO NOT WORSHIP THE SAME GOD.

If David Koresh said that "Jesus" told him to rape little girls and set everyone on fire, that does not mean there is a problem with Jesus/Y'shua/Issa. The problem was with Koresh.
But Jesus did NOT say this, mohammad did in fact do the exact things you suggess.
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If certain Muslims, say "Allah" has told them to kill all infidels, including innocent women and children, the problem is not with "Allah", it is with the killers who justify their crimes in his Name.

This is from the karon.....from allah? I have studied both I suggest you do also.

O ye who believe, if you obey those who have disbelieved (Jews and Christians), they will cause you to revert to disbelief and you will become losers. Indeed, Allah is your Protector and He is the Best of helpers. We shall strike terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved because they associate partners with Allah, for which He has sent down no authority. Their abode is the Fire, and evil is the habitation of the wrongdoers. (Surah 3:150-152)

There are many more Quran verses of punishment and/or killing of disbelievers:

Warn the disbelievers of a painful chastisement, excepting those of them with whom you have a pact and have not faulted in any respect, nor supported anyone against you. Carry out the obligations you have assumed toward them till the end of their terms. Surely, Allah loves those who are mindful of their obligations. When a period of four months during which hostilities are suspended expires, without the idolaters having settled the terms of peace with you, resume fighting with them and kill them wherever you find them and make them prisoners and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. (Surah 9:3-6)

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I know Christ personally, and we are called to redeem, not destroy.
If you knew Him, YOU would understand. OUR mission in life to spread the WORD OG GOD through Jesus Christ.WE are to put on the armor of GOD to fight evil everyday.

The Holy Bible

The Armor of God

10Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.

What purpose then, does it serve Islamic leaders to try to convince Christians that we have a “common bond” together because we have the same historical holy men? Meditate carefully on this issue… wolves in sheep’s clothing do exist inside the church and outside the church… during times of peace and during times of distress.
See site...
http://focusonjerusalem.com/islamandchristianity.html

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We can and will act in self defense, but a declaration of war against an entire religion (instead of a small, deviant strain as the 9/11 Commission calls it - "political Islam") such a war is a "holy war".

You will act together that is what you are doing right now by bringing this to this thread. You do not know a alot about how Christians feel or we and others would be on the same ground with you about Islam.

Do not tell Christians who speak Arabic that they worship "Satan".
Facts please visit the following web sites... And NO Christian with a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is going to be shaken by words.

The Holy Bible
Isaiah 40
7 The grass withers and the flowers fall,
because the breath of the LORD blows on them.
Surely the people are grass.
8 The grass withers and the flowers fall,
but the word of our God stands forever."



Allah - the Moon God

The Archeology of The Middle East
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

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If you know your scriptures, Christ taught there is only one sin that is unforgivable.
Yes this is the only true statement you have used.

The Holy Bible

Matthew 12: 30"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters. 31And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the
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And if you believe it is our mission to kill all Muslims.
Then, my friend, you are a holy warrior, a follower of jihad.
And it is just as evil.

This is twisting of words Pure evil and would not come from a real Christian. Christianity is the ONLY tolerant religion. Islam is not tolerant as seen in the above phrase about from the karon.
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As President Bush says and believes, Islam is a religion of peace.

Those who hate all Muslims simply because they are Muslims are no better than those who hate all Christians because they are Christians.

Prove to me it is a religion of peace muslims have been aggressively fighting from th beginning of time.

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The last Holy War lasted three centuries. And none of them acted very "holy".

If this is what the board has become (Christian jihadis), I'll take my leave.
This is the recipe for apocalypse.

We only defend the beliefs of ALL not just one religion and will defend it to the end.

This is how it will all end and the promise of GOD maker of all mankind WHO sent HIS only son to die for our sins.

The Holy Bible

Revelation 21


The New Jerusalem

1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
6He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. 8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
3,409 posted on 08/08/2004 3:34:13 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: null and void
Whenever I see that, I am compelled to respond:

I love Jooooooooooooooooooooooooooos. I am a Zionist! I am a proud American infidel. I am a kuffar!

3,410 posted on 08/08/2004 3:34:23 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: All

PERSECUTION.org - INTERNATIONAL CHRISTIAN CONCERN
http://www.persecution.org/newsite/


3,411 posted on 08/08/2004 3:35:07 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Thanks Cindy. That is an interesting website. Just bookmarked it.


3,412 posted on 08/08/2004 3:37:59 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: nwctwx
I didn't get much past the title and a few other words...

Someone else posted a brief translation:

That "brief translation" said some thing about the stadium drawing being a mosque. I have never seen a mosque with square minarets.

What was the title and the few words?

3,413 posted on 08/08/2004 3:39:58 PM PDT by Selene
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To: MamaDearest
"Someone needs to update his after-shave IMHO."

Chuckle! I recall seeing sexy Joe Namath (who I had a crush on at a very early age) in the Brut commercials. Brut is a bit old hat now, too.

Please do not laugh at my crush on Joe; I also had a minor interest in Tiny Tim. Now that one you can laugh about.

3,414 posted on 08/08/2004 3:42:45 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Battle Axe; TruthNtegrity

Check out post #3,406.


3,415 posted on 08/08/2004 3:51:46 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: nwctwx

I second HipShot's applause. I also understand where you are coming from academically and historically. You are taking an academic and detached view. On the other hand, I know you see how many folks here have come to be hardened against the Islamic religion.

BTW, I am older than you and I still always give the benefit of the doubt to the "outsiders" or the "underlings" or the "ones being picked on." I know what you mean.

Also, many times our quick and unedited printed posts do not properly relay our sentiments because they are only words on the screen -- they cannot be supported by facial expressions or body language. Our posts can be downright deceiving and make us cringe because after we post them we more easily see how they can be taken the wrong way sometimes.

That's one of the reasons I would support an "edit" function. We always see our posts better once they are posted.


3,416 posted on 08/08/2004 3:52:50 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Bethshaya

Allah - the Moon God

The Archeology of The Middle East
The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity. Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion. Thus we should all become Muslims. But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology.

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This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur'an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.
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This "Allah" was the Moon-god according to the archeological evidence. Muhammad thus attempted to have it both ways. To the pagans, he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. But both the Jews and the Christians knew better and that is why they rejected his god Allah as a false god.

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Al-Kindi, one of the early Christian apologists against Islam, pointed out that Islam and its god Allah did not come from the Bible but from the paganism of the Sabeans. They did not worship the God of the Bible but the Moon-god and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. Dr. Newman concludes his study of the early Christian-Muslim debates by stating, "Islam proved itself to be...a separate and antagonistic religion which had sprung up from idolatry." Islamic scholar Caesar Farah concluded "There is no reason, therefore, to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and Jews." The Arabs worshipped the Moon-god as a supreme deity. But this was not biblical monotheism. While the Moon-god was greater than all other gods and goddesses, this was still a polytheistic pantheon of deities. Now that we have the actual idols of the Moon-god, it is no longer possible to avoid the fact that Allah was a pagan god in pre-Islamic times. Is it any wonder then that the symbol of Islam is the crescent moon? That a crescent moon sits on top of their mosques and minarets? That a crescent moon is found on the flags of Islamic nations? That the Muslims fast during the month which begins and ends with the appearance of the crescent moon in the sky?

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The Muslim's claim that Allah is the God of the Bible and that Islam arose from the religion of the prophets and apostles is refuted by solid, overwhelming archeological evidence. Islam is nothing more than a revival of the ancient Moon-god cult. It has taken the symbols, the rites, the ceremonies, and even the name of its god from the ancient pagan religion of the Moon-god. As such, it is sheer idolatry


3,417 posted on 08/08/2004 3:53:50 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: Bethshaya

Sorry here's the link

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm


3,418 posted on 08/08/2004 3:55:41 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: Honestly

Honestly, thank you so much for posting that article. It is one of the most fascinating reads for me.


3,419 posted on 08/08/2004 3:55:43 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

You're welcome.


3,420 posted on 08/08/2004 3:58:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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