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Posted on 08/02/2004 5:12:31 PM PDT by JustPiper
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Computers are key to their communications and also in their methods of attack. I never knew these were attributed to control system breaches:
1) control tower shutdown the Worcester (Mass.) Regional Airport
2) Slammer-related disruption of the safety monitoring system at FirstEnergy's Davis-Besse nuclear plant in Ohio
3) Sasser worm in spring 2004 took out several oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico for two days
4) SoBig affected the dispatching and signaling systems of CSX Transportation, halting train service for four to six hours along the Northeast corridor
More chilling yet: "A malicious hacker or terrorist group could conceivably take down parts of the power grid, throwing the country into darkness; they could take out emergency telephone systems or disable the floodgates to a dam. Even scarier to terrorism experts is a digital intrusion combined with a physical attack; think 9/11, but magnify the chaos by adding an electronic knockout of regional or national communication and power systems." (see post 3109)
If these incidents are identified as being attributed to security breaches, just think about all of the unusual computer related glitches that we've been hearing about recently that are not identified.
I believe that a multi-pronged attack will include computer security breaches. It's a lot less dangerous to the attacker than other methods discussed. Why blow yourself up when you can push some buttons and live?
Please be patient with a rant . . . regarding the Islamic Jihadi's . . . Kind of thinking out loud after some pondering . . . feedback is fine but I probably won't rise to any baiting flame wars. Thoughtful dialogue would be fine.
IGNORANT ISLAMIC JIHADI'S--THEIR MENTALITY, CULTURE, VALUES, SO-CALLED SCRIPTURES . . .
1) It seems very evident to me, that in spite of the lofty engineering, MD, and other professional degrees and training of many of them--a very persistent hallmark of the Jihadi's--especially Al Qaeda--and even Bin Laden--is a kind of limited experience; school-yard bully sort of ignorance.
1.1) That is, when they write or speak--it is as though the dark ages of personal and cultural development is trying to speak up from hundreds of centuries ago into the world of 2,004. Their metaphors, values, habits, goals, vengeance, hostility, murder, rationalizations, word choices, phrasing, etc. are all cast in the blood thirsty jargon of the demonic infested waring tribes of the region where Mohammmmbone first decided to turn a demonic tribal moon god into Allah.
1.2) They are just as scrappy; just as irrational; just as blood thirsty; just as brutal; just as narrow minded--as much as minds above a slug level are evident at all; just as disconnected from rational, civilized cause and effect as one could imagine a mud grubbing backwards people to be.
1.3) And, what of this ignorance? Is there any hope that such a bunch of mud grubbing slug-wits could gain any kind of modern enlightenment? I think not. I think their RELIGIOUS ZEAL is so demonically infested and overlain that they are virtually beyond much free will in the issue at present. They seem to be literally hell-bent on a road to distruction while fantasizing that it is taking them to a rather large bed with umpteen virgins which will actually turn out to be demons taunting them in hell through out eternity.
1.4) Certainly Western philosophy will not enlighten them. Wimpish, weak kneed, neutered, Holy-Spirit lacking pseudo Christianity will not do it. Hollyweed will not do it.
1.5) Mercifully, SOME individuals, families and maybe a few small tribal groups are having some supernatural dreams and visions of Jesus and being truly brought into a RELATIONSHIP with THE TRUE ALMIGHTY GOD. Interestingly, they often are so backwards and ignorant that they have to do some very cautious research to even find out who Jesus is after their dreams and visions--though they know from their dreams and visions that HE IS GOD--they have no reference point or cultural, historical educated understanding of who Jesus is, at all.
1.6) I read in a post somewhere hereon that most MoHAMMMMMbone-ihduns do not even understand their so called Scriptures--the Korkran. That is, they may memorize the sounds--but they really have so little education and are so absent critical thinking skills that they are virtually totally unable to think about the words and sounds that they mouth. It is kind of like the citizens in the dark ages with the Roman church--depending totally on the priests--the Immmmhammmmons, in this case, to TELL THEM RELENTLESSLY what the Korkran means.
2.0) It seems clear to me that the MoHAMMMMMbone-ihduns MENTALITIES are chronically backwards; chronically blood thirsty; chronically hostile; chronically constipated; chronically insecure; chronically inferior; chronically pathetic; chronically grasping; chronically bombastic; chronically shrill; chronically demanding for attention in the manner of a 2-4 year old kindergarten bully.
2.1) I don't think there's a lot that can be done for such mentalities short of decades long imprisonment and intense group therapy; group retraining; social skills retraining akin to brain washing--when one can find enough brains to wash . . .
2.2) It seems to me that such mentalities are kind of continually feeding on their own puss, their own p*ss, their own blood--and blaming the bad taste on all the decent Christian and Jewish folk in the world.
2.3) Even as a shrink, it boggles my mind as to how one might find a way to break through to such mentalities that they might be changed into some sort of sane, productive, constructive individuals. Short of an Almighty God ST PAUL DAMASCUS ROAD sort of supernatural experience, I really do not know what could break through to such HAMMMBONE mentalities.
2.4) They really seem to be locked into a certain destructive rut; destructive long grave of a continuous mental loop sort of mentality which absolutely blocks out any entrance of any kind of real truth; real understanding; real fact gathering; real wisdom; real sanity to ever scratch the surface of their slug-brains--much less take root there.
3.0) I've tried to think if, in all my science fiction reading I'd ever come across any even imaginary culture as destitute, banckrupt, obsessed with death; insecure; blood-thirsty; lacking in decency; lacking in charity; lacking in horse-sense, not to mention wisdom; lacking in sanity; modern uplifting, redemptive art; . . . and the list could go on and on--as the MoHAMMMMBONE-ihdun culture.
3.1) That's pretty mind boggling. Even the bloody Aztec culture had more redeeming social value.
3.2) I could go on and on about this subtopic but I have some other tasks to get to.
4.0) Their values are similarly so super dark as to cause one to wonder how they find enough light to poop in the right place by. Imagine growing up a woman! Or imagine being a 6 year old child and one's parents or older brothers suddenly inform you that you've been nominated to go for the 72 virgins after a few short weeks of training! Imagine being delluded by a host of demonic teachings; demonic religion 'leaders,' demonic founding documents etc. No values of enlightenment; of life giving hope; of charity and mutual support among peoples AT ALL! There is only blood, vengeance, hostility, death, destruction--as though the entire populace lived 'at that time of the month' and wanted to rub their bloody rags in your face as a sign of religious righteousness and superiority!
5.0) Their 'scriptures' could also take a ton of paragraphs. Clearly, MoHAMMMMBONUD was tooooo ignorant to really come up with anything very original. Evidently much of the founding documents are akin to the drug crazed, incongruous philosophically mindless idle thoughts of a syphlitic drug addict in the throes of their last dellusions before some squalid death--and still they seem to manage a sizeable percentage of quasi plagirized stuff from pretty mangled philosophical documents of other religions--Judiasm and Christianity.
5.1) Evidently the internal consistencies are virtually nonexistent except for the blood-thirsty ones.
5.2) Evidently the logical thought process and idea development is totally lacking.
5.3) They evidently are basically akin to a drunkards rantings while wallowing around the hogwallow with an old sow and her dozen piglets. Quite a hodgpodge of rantings.
Nope. Can't be true. You-know-who says it's impossible...
I'm aware of this (Mosquito population here in Miami, is just out of control) but a muggy humid climate raises the persistency of a nerve agent, especially if used someplace like a subway or tunnel; maybe a big parking garage.
Do you mean TPTB say that computers can't wreak havoc on our infrastructure? They have admitted that they've got some catching up to do, but they're privy to a lot more than what is disclosed in this article, and I just posted a fraction of the information from the article.
(although he will, if beaten heavily about the head and shoulders with the facts, allow that a tree branch can do it)...
Not to mention the "foreplay" that resulted in a huge pile of guns next to each one as they stripped down. How could you even move?
Maybe you should send him the article that I posted without inviting him for discussion. I vaguely recall a similar situation that evolved into a disruption.
Nahhh. But I'm not above posting a thread...
Yeah, I guess that's why some of the mosques on American shores have produced tracing of funds to terrorist groups and plans to kill people with rockets...., perhaps they call it something else? They could be helping us to locate sleeper cell agents and remove them from among us, but that's not happening. Wonder how many they've reported to our FBI/CIA/Homeland Security. Now THAT would be helping us in the war on terror. IMHO people tend to stick to their own kind in their own neighborhoods given half the opportunity. Tell me Muslims haven't noticed their own kind with hostile fanatic intent at their local mosques? Those righteous Muslims should be willing to do the right thing, right? Profiling would not be necessary if they truly were helping us like they want us to believe.
Very good point. It's even possible that some of the recruited fighters were not totally honest with AQ in volunteering to come over here for Jihad, and in fact only wanted to get here and disappear into a better life. Maybe.
a few thousand fighters nationwide (at the extreme) who have difficulty coordinating their actions and are easily mopped up once they present themselves.
I have to agree with the problems of coordinating attacks especially since the USA is a heckuva lot bigger than the Sunni Triangle. That's why I wouldn't be surprised at multiple handlers each isolated to their own set of missions in different regions of the country. If they decided to stagger their attacks, they could sustain their ops for perhaps a year or so.
Creating chaos and killing lots of civilians is not the same as being militarily effective.
Exactly! They have a choice, go for the high body count and propaganda values to "show" the world and yada yada yada. OR Go for the kill shot and that means maybe foregoing civilian casualties in favor of primarily infrastructure and economic shots. Power grid. Petroleum. Financial. Food Distribution. Transportation.
And the more they get "involved" they more the risk exposure (and are resigned to that fact). So again, why? There must be something "special" about what is underway.
You decide: Kill a lot of Americans for propaganda value or go for the "kill" shot? If they can't hope to sustain guerilla operations long enough to take advantage of chaotic conditions (conditions caused by what?) then what is so "special" about this operation?
Wait until volunteers line up in waves to take revenge for the WMD strikes and we all beg for a draft. We'll send *millions* of troops to take apart the region village by village, town by town, city by city.
We won't launch any nukes of our own, we won't risk irradiating the oil fields or their vital iol infrastructure. Therefore our "tot" involvement in the ME (short term) may be what they are hoping for to force the rest of that community of nations into joining into global Jihad and try taking out Israel as well.
Hey Karl. Where's the fire? I've been offline most of the day & blissfully unaware of news. But now that it's sunset, my western horizon is an orange/red/purple bruise.
you know, after I logged off I realized I should have posted a link....only a drill.
http://freqofnature.no-ip.com:5080/photography/dp04/
but took place on the same day as the LAPD/LAFD one
the fire is off the I-5 north of Castaic.
East Fire
317pm start
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