Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Sixteen

Yahoo ^ | 8-02-04 | AP

[JustPiper]

Credit: The Cabal

The title refers to a daily report given to the president of the United States detailing the most serious terrorist threats against the country. To tackle those threats, the government has formed a top-notch task force to infiltrate the terror cells and cut off the danger.

"Every morning, the president receives a list of the top ten terrorist threats - this list is known as the threat matrix."

We here at FR are trying to be in conjunction with the daily reports around the world that involve threats. We try to provide a storehouse of information that takes hours of research.

YOU be the Judge and get informed.


"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat."

Link to Thread Fifteen

Police Secure Businesses on Terror Alert
NEW YORK - Police searched trucks, blocked streets and posted machine-gun toting officers outside financial landmarks Monday, a day after the government's chilling warning that terrorists might target the buildings with bombs.

"God could not be everywhere and therefore he made mothers."
-- Jewish proverb

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the
enemy who wishes to do us harm.




"What good are the color codes at all if we are suddenly hit with a bio or chem attack? There would be no warning and the danger would be instant."

"Code Red Implications
Code Red - Stay Home and Await Word."
by MamaDearest

Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!

[callmejoe]

U.S.-Mexico border security is a controversial issue and I think it deserves its own thread. Suffice it to say that I think it is much more complicated than some think.

The terrorists who behead American contractors and kill American soldiers are not coming from Mexico, but from Syria and Iran. WMD may have gone to Syria and the Syrian-controlled Bekaa (this is based on public statements of US officials, not Debka). And Zarqawi is getting support from Syria just as Sadr is from Iran.

True, some of the current infiltration is coming from Mexico this time rather than Canada or ports (as it has before), but it has been other routes in the past, and the central issue is not which one of the many points they could come in, but where are they coming from (the original source).

If you don't go to the source, you will never solve the problem because they will *always* find a way in - - where there is a will, there is a way.

The incipient revolution in the news today in Iraq is being fueled by Iran and its strategic ally, Syria. That has implications not only for the entire ME, but for global peace and stability. Mexico is child's play and a sideshow compared to that.

They (Syria and Iran) also harbor and support Hezbollah and elements of al Qaeda, who are planning attacks in the US. Recall we just had to throw out (another) Iranian diplomat last month for taking pictures of potential targets in (guess where?) - - New York City.

As the President said, we are fighting them there so we are not fighting them here.

As many cells that might be here at the moment, imagine how many would be here if we were not pinning them down and killing them over there.

Yes, I know how bad it is. But despite what the "experts" say, there is no easy solution. And the Canadian border is a huge problem as well. What you do for one has to be done for the other or you just shift the problem.

Doesn't matter if we had the troops to seal off the southern border (and we don't - - we don't even have enough NG left in the US to deal with certain WMD scenarios). They would find another way in. Guaranteed. And if we "sealed" the border in the way some advocate (walls, mines, troops), Mexico would become a "pressure cooker" and destabilize. If we cut off Canada, they would find a way to survive, Mexico would be a different story.

If Mexico were to collapse, it would risk over the next decade becoming a narco-terrorist state that has left the US sphere of influence and begins to gravitate in much more dangerous orbits. A Cuba/Venezuela of 100 million sharing a 2000-mile border.

And there will still be people getting across, no matter what measure you take. People come in and out of North Korea and Iran all the time. There is no such things as an impervious border.

Not saying we should not do something. But anything (even if there was a good solution, and there is not) would take years to implement, and we don't have the luxury of time. Just saying folks need to cut the President a little slack on that issue. He knows what he is doing, and he is not an idiot.

You cannot win this on the defense. You don't draw the line in the sand here.
You draw it there.

"Defense in depth"

[Rutles4Ever]

Jim McDermott is on the record saying these aren't politically motivated threats. Now that'll make you take pause!

[Cindy]

INTERESTING, isn't it Texas Bluebell?

[BagCamAddict]

The 9-11 hijackers had Plan B for DURING the attack -- they had everything planned to the Nth degree... So it makes sense that they would have a Plan B for before the attack.

(The 9-11 hijackers' Plan B for during the attack was, as evidenced by the Flight 93 cockpit tapes, to ditch the plane intentionally if anything went wrong.)

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

Thanks much! It realy helps to have someone who knows this stuff to keep us alerted.

[freeperfromnj]

Now I'm really heading for the hills!

[callmejoe]

I'm not going to carry Debka's water for them.
They are probably wrong more than they are right.
But compared to all the other "non-major-media" websites that have been cited over the months on these threads (sites both named and unnamed), they have a much, much higher batting average (even if it below .500).

When you deal with, rumor, speculation, and conjecture, you take what you can get.

And a limited post 9/11 Iraqi mobilization near the Syrian border was not completely bogus. Press reports said Negroponte at the UN had to go warn the Iraqis off. (Don't so much as twitch or it will be the last thing you ever do)

I'm sure it was said more diplomatically.

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

Thank you very much for sharing with us. I would rather hear what you have to say and decide for myself than not know at all. Your are a good solider thanks again:)

[texasbluebell]

That they are going to use our own Constitution to destroy us.

Exactly what's going on -- with the help of the aclu, and other groups that are only to happy to see the US fall.

[texasbluebell]

Kubera said plans to build the mosque and a hotel were scrapped after some 5,000 citizens signed a petition, protesting construction of the mosque. They claimed it could attract terrorists, the mayor said.

The Czechs are onto something. Think this would work in the US? (We'd probably get sued...)

[freeperfromnj]

As I read it I thought to myself -- Why can we, here in a free country like America, have the power to pull that off.

[KylaStarr]

http://cad.chp.ca.gov/

Any of you hearing anything about this vehicle fire under the power lines on northbound I-5, right across from San Onofre power??

Incident: 0492 Type: Vehicle Fire Location: NB I5 AT NUCLEAR PLANT Zoom Map: 1023 5H Info as of: 8/6/2004 12:38:02 PM

ADDITIONAL DETAILS
12:27PM - 1039 HARBORSIDE FB
12:27PM - PER ADDL CALLER THAT WAS SB POSS 1125
12:26PM - 3B; PZL ROLL 1 1185
12:23PM - RIGHT UNDER THE POWER LINES, AL OT OF SMOKE
12:22PM - 1039 CAMP PEN FD
12:21PM - LOTS OF SMOKE

RESPONDING OFFICERS STATUS
12:28PM - CHP Unit On Scene
12:33PM - CHP Unit On Scene

[Humidston]

Prayers for you and your husband, knak. Stay strong, encourage him, and keep the faith!

[Lucy Lake]

A cancer on civilization
Rocky Mountain News ^ | 8/6/04 | Michael Rosen


Posted on 08/06/2004 12:50:34 PM MDT by freedom44
.........

Call it what you will - radical Islam, Wahhabism, Jihadism - it's a cancer on civilization that must be forcefully removed, just as Nazism had to be eliminated in the last century.

Until we come to grips with that reality, we will not devote the will, the resources and the sacrifice necessary to win this latest world war. After 9/11, many Americans have come to understand this.

The next 9/11 might persuade some more. The French, among others, are still pathetically in denial.

Lest you think I exaggerate the threat, listen to the sentiments of Fawwaz bin Muhammad Al-Nashami, commander of the Al Quds Brigade, which took "credit" for the recent May 29 massacre in Khobar, Saudi Arabia.

Translated from Arabic by the Middle East Media Research Institute, the original interview was posted on Sawt Al-Jihad, a Web site with ties to al-Qaida.

"We tied the infidel [a Briton] by one leg [behind the car] . . .

Everyone watched the infidel being dragged . . .

The infidel's clothing was torn to shreds, and he was naked in the street.

The street was full of people, as this was during work hours,

and everyone watched the infidel being dragged, praise and gratitude be to Allah . . .

We entered one of the companies' [offices], and found there an American infidel who looked like a director of one of the companies.

I went into his office and called him.

When he turned to me, I shot him in the head, and his head exploded.

We entered another office and found one infidel from South Africa, and our brother Hussein cut his throat.

We asked Allah to accept [these acts of devotion] from us, and from him.

"We went from the company [offices] and found our brother, Nimr the hero, standing at the entrance to the company and guarding us, drinking a little water as though he were on a hike. [He acted this way] because of his great courage - may Allah have mercy on him . . .

"At the same time, we found a Swedish infidel.

Brother Nimr cut off his head, and put it at the gate so that it would be seen by all those entering and exiting.

We continued in the search for infidels, and we slit the throats of those we found among them . . .

"We found Filipino Christians.

We cut their throats and dedicated them to our brothers in the Mujahideen in the Philippines.

[Likewise], we found Hindu engineers and we cut their throats too, Allah be praised.

" That same day we purged Muhammad's land of many Christians and polytheists . . .

"Afterward, we turned to the hotel. We entered and found a restaurant where we ate breakfast and rested a while.

Then we went to the next floor, found several Hindu dogs, and cut their throats . . . brother Hussein was on the stairs and noticed an Italian infidel.

He aimed his gun at him and told him to come closer. The infidel came closer.

We saw his identifying documents . . .

afterward we would cut his throat and dedicate him to the idiotic Italian president who wants to confront the lions of Islam."

As you can see, these heroic "lions of Islam" don't just murder Americans.

They're equal-opportunity butchers of all "infidels."

In Khobar, that meant innocent, unarmed civilians whose primary sin was having a different religious belief from theirs.

If this cancer is ever to be effectively eradicated, it would best be done by civilized Muslims, their own countrymen.

One wonders if there are enough of them and if they're up to the task?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1186465/posts

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

I wonder if anyone has a source on this bow thingy? I saw this about 2-3 days ago and the only source I could find was the unmentionable site and where it had been crossed over to another site. So what I saw was third hand.
And it may be that the original source is not there anymore. You know so many times the terrorist put stuff up and then take it down, I figure the terrorist don't want a lawsuit.

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

The FISH the FISH, how could I have forgotten about the FISH
Don't worry it's global warming al gore is on it.

[texasbluebell]

What struck me, though was this person's insistence that Bush couldn't care less about the election -- not because he doesn't want to be re-elected, but that he would assuredly risk re-election by doing the right thing by issuing terror warning he knows may not come to pass. President Bush is a good GOOD man. Don't let anyone ever tell you differently....

GWB is not in this for the power that so many others are/have been. He didn't even want to run, was convinced to do so by the power-brokers.

I've never forgotten the photo from when he announced he was going to run. Right before he went on stage, there was a very poignant moment backstage, a photo of him with his head down, Laura behind him with her hand on his back, and George Schultz standing there.

GWB had this rather melancholy contemplative look on his face, because he knew his whole life was about to change forever.

I think he would be happy to leave if he knew someone decent was following him, someone who could be trusted, but that's not the case.

The only people we should ever entrust with the job are those who don't spend their entire lives preparing for it. Unfortunately, we've had a few too many of this sort lately.

[flutters]

Fascinating read. I was surprised to learn that the balloons caused the only civilian deaths. Thanks for the links. We need to keep this in the back of our minds.

Everyone have a great weekend. I'll be in West Virginia at my river lot until Sunday. I hope all stays quiet. I will post the thread update when I get back.

[callmejoe]

"That they are going to use our own Constitution to destroy us."

It is something much more literal. It was the original reason I "de-lurked".
I am not going to spell it out, but there is a way to send this nation into chaos by using the *election*-related procedures as outlined by the constitution against itself.

This is why they are focused on the *elections*.

Most still don't completely appreciate their sophistication. They study our buildings for years. For some reason, we think they don't do the same with our government?

They made sure 9/11 happened when Congress was in session, because if you can kill or "incapacitate" (think Anthrax and Ricin) 50% of the House, you can force the constitution to "malfunction". There are similar problems related to the election, transition, and inauguration.

If noone gets a majority of the electoral votes (think Florida 2000 but three or four states results called into question), it goes to the House (12th Amendment).

There is a Plan B but no Plan C. I'll leave it there.
But they are aiming for civil chaos and hoping for civil violence.

They believe Allah used them to help take the USSR apart.

That is why they believe they can take the USA "apart".

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

we caught the crypo guy
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Keep in mind we got him form Pakistan. I don't trust them. they have lied to us many times. I had a feeling when this came out it was a trick, prayerfully not.

Well I am talking about feelings now I sound like the democrats. I need a nap!